Recasting call NWC into NGE

[Spokavriel]

Instead of further derailing the Crossover idea twists I'm making a thread here in Fic Research to continue exploring these possibilities.

Please review the posts following mine in the thread where this started The time and date on this post is a good enough indicator of the cut off point.

So who do you think given the Evangellion character history circumstances has the best chances of turning out close matches to the NGE adults?

I Really really would like to have Ranma be Gendo.

I also think that the fairly recent post I made about Shampoo and Mousse filling in well for Misato and Kaji is one I'd like to keep. But none of these are set in stone. Any suggestions or insights on who and why people might end up fitting well into the Evangellion characters places if they undergo the same circumstances, in the years between Ranma 1/2 and NGE, would be welcome.

[mondu_the_fat]

I love the idea of Shinji being Ranma's son, and being raised by Suon.

It just fits... so goddamn well. You can even have Ranma regretting leaving Shinji in Suons care and resulting in a spineless wimp.

With those three characters in place, one of the tendo sisters can fill in Yui's role. It can't be any other female, as I doubt Suon would consent to take care of the young Shinji then.

Akane -- Yui/Rei.

Happosai -- Keel Lorenz

Genma -- Kaji; have to adjust Asuka's relationship to one of disgust; Genma is a conman, and I have no problems seeing him attempting to play several sides simultaneously, as well as keeping secrets from...
Nadoka -- Misato (other than Suon, will be the most likely person to take care of Shinji; can also juggle the 3 kids in an apartment). There is also the relationship between Genma and Nodoka as background, like the tension between Kaji and Misato.

Shampoo -- Ritsuko. Kodachi can also probably fit. Given that Gendo was boinking Ritsuko, the role has to be one of Ranma's fiancees.
Cologne -- Naoko, if shampoo is Ritsuko. Cologne knew what Rei was going to become, tried to kill her, was killed instead. She also fits being an "old hag", which Rei (being a clone of Akane) calls her. A bit of relationship has to be changed, since I doubt Ranma would boink Cologne even if you paid him.
Kodachi -- Asuka's mom (well, she _was_ insane). Alternatively, Azusa Shiratori can take Kyoko Zeppelin's role if Kodachi is being kept for a different role

Nabiki -- Fuyutsuki. I can see Nabiki in the role, if Akane is Yui

Kasumi -- Penpen. Not explicitly stated. Nadoka just has a housemate, and the penguin doesn't making an appearance in the fic.


As for history:

Ranma and Akane get married. The rest go on with their lives. Happosai becomes obsessed with furthering his lifespan. Genma cons more people, getting estranged from his wife. Akane, Shampoo/Kodachi eventually go to college and study.

Second impact. Ranma and Akane have Shinji.

In the original EVA story, the adults were scientists that were instrumental to the creation of the EVAs. However, for this story, it doesn't have to be so. Maybe the various martial artists and ki are important to the study of the soul, and eventually martial artists like Ranma and Akane (and the rest of the NWC) get involved in it.

Akane "disappears" during a test. Ranma vows to get her back, eventually heading NERV itself. Nabiki helps him along. Shinji is sent to Suon to rause. Ranma starts boinking Shampoo on the side, which cologne approves of. But when the scientists of NERV create Rei, cologne sees Rei as a danger to her own plans (Rei being a clone of akane, and maybe a key to reuniting Akane and Ranma), and kills her. How does Cologne die? Naoko killed herself, although I can't see Cologne do this. Maybe Ranma kills her himself (Shampoo doesn't know), serving as the moral event horizon for him.

[Spokavriel]

I'm sorry but I really don't think Genma and Nodoka work where you have them. It would really be better to try to keep the fill ins within the same generation since they appeared to more or less be in original Evangellion.

I was kinda thinking Genma and Nodoka would either die in second impact or become the parents for Asuka. Still dead before story starts.

[Pale Wolf]

Um, Mondu... I don't think killing a woman who murdered a four-year-old girl would serve as a moral event horizon. Moral event horizons don't provoke people to cheer them on. Generally.

As far as Soun... mm, I don't really like the idea. Shinji isn't spineless because he was raised by a weepy freak, he's spineless because of abandonment issues (which, themselves, were because his father was too terrified he'd screw Shinji up - irony, eh?). Making it 'because of Soun' seems to me to devalue the whole thing.

As noted in the prior thread, I generally support the idea of Kodachi as Ritsuko or Naoko, if you're following the same 'mad science' path... well, Ritsuko's many things, but her primary skill is in biology, and Kodachi is the single NWC member who I can best see actually achieving anything in science. (Frankly, even if the NWC's contribution is mostly ki-wise, with the nature of the Evangelions and Magi they'd still need a biologist along anyway)

(Response I must make to Wyrd: Genma... a good con artist? Genma's a crappy con artist. He's less skilled than Nabiki, who, herself, only achieves any results because everyone around them is functionally retarded - she's an idiot too.)

Misato... mm, I don't really agree with Spok's statement that Shampoo is good at tactics and can thus fill in the role. On the other hand, Misato wasn't good at tactics either, so Shampoo can fill in and do no worse.

I do like the thought of Shinji getting raised by Kasumi and X, where X does not equal Tofu. (Frankly I've seen so many authors putting them together as soul mates on, apparently, the sole basis that he has a freaky crush on her, that I'd like to see her with anyone else.)

Here's another question - Spok, you're considering scrapping Akane as Yui (and as someone who doesn't like Akane, I approve), so who're you considering as replacement? Or just pick up Yui herself?

[Spokavriel]

I was thinking Nabiki. Don't forget that Yui was very involved in many aspects of all the programs up until her accident. And while Nabiki is small time if anything she did show the ambition needed to fill in that role during the yen incident where she sold Ranma.

[Wyrd]

(Response I must make to Wyrd: Genma... a good con artist? Genma's a crappy con artist. He's less skilled than Nabiki, who, herself, only achieves any results because everyone around them is functionally retarded - she's an idiot too.)

Look at the gambling king arc--just about everyone in Ranma 1/2 has a high idiocy quotient. It is part of the humor style. In defense of Genma's skills, though, look at how many times he is shown to have successfully conned people. He seems to be able to sell ice to an Eskimo, as long as he can get away before they realize what is going on. His biggest weakness in this area appears to be a lack of patience and an inability to keep up whatever facade he is choosing to use.

[Spokavriel]

So far the only agreed on part that seems right is Ranma replacing Gendo. Just what would that entail? Obviously he has to succeed in getting into Toudai, tokyo university, because that is one of the history points that came up if I remember correctly. It is also where Gendo met Fuyutski. And he attended with Ikari.

Really the question on that is can Gendo's past make sense as Ranma's future?

I thought it might be fun if the 4 friends from Furinkin end up the Bridge bunnies. Hiroshi, Daisuke, Yuka and Saiyuri

Could you imagine Gosenkugi's dad (Seen in the manga) be this fusion's Fuyutski?

It has been suggested that Happosai be part of SELE. Well what about the rest of the council? Could more adults from Ranma 1/2 be behind the obelisks?

[J. St.C. Patrick]

How about Tofu as Fuyutsuki?

So, what of Ranma's curse?

Is he cured or something else?


Perhaps he is cured ala the splitting incense story. (without the evil side bit)

The 24/7 male Ranama marries Akane etc. on his way to becoming the Gendo of the piece.

The female Ranma remains a young girl who becomes the Asuka of the story - possibly made younger by the age mushrooms - taken to Germany by Nodoka to work on unit 02

[Spokavriel]

Tofu as Fuyutski could work really well especially if Ranma goes into medical school. And since the Evangellion robots are bio mechanical that could give another aspect to assist the project beyond just what was bluffed through in the original story.

I'd actually like to keep the curse. Ranma without switching forms just isn't Ranma any more. It might be a hard dynamic to handle but I think it could be managed.

[Cheb]

You did not specify which NGE.

The old and hopelessly obsolete TV series, or the awesome new movies?
These two are so radically different that I cannot even stand the first one after seeing the second one. Ikari Gendo is one of my most favorite anime characters now! I admire him!
After seeing the Rebuild you won't be able to look at the characters in the same light even if you try, it opens so many new angles...

Any fanfiction concerning Evangelion has a bleak perspective until the fourth, final movie is out and we see it in its completeness!

[Spokavriel]

Haven't even tried to watch the new movies. Kinda waiting for the whole story to be available first.

[Spokavriel]

Ok lets see where things are at right now.

Ranma is locked in as Gendo and only potentially as Genda if water allows. (Following Ranko Ranma pattern only reversed)

Dr Tofu is the best option for Fuyutski

Shampoo would work well as Captain and later Major Katsuragi

I seem to see some agreement that it would be good if Asuka were related genetically to Ranma. Suggestions of being a split off girl form. I still like the idea of a post second impact daughter for Genma and Nodoka after finally having to change family names to escape Genma's multiple dishonors of the family name.

Haven't seen any reaction to the school friends becoming the bridge crew.

Just which Tendo daughter is the best fit for being Yui Ikari's replacement?

[ckosacranoid]

the nrifge bunnies of akanes and ranma friends could by fun...but the thought of azuza as one of them would be really bad though i think....

is there any chance to make shinji into something that is not mr super wimp? meybe raised by lost boy and got his curse of being lost all the time....could be fun....

or meybe shinji raised by kasimi and kuno? now shinji has a think for swords and shouting about the great bard......

as for mistso though i see akane fiting into that role for what we know of her....no real sense of tacitis and cant cook to say her life and would be more then likly to not get married i see after dealing with the fall out of the bombed wedding.

the red hair terror.....how about being the daughter of azua....for something just really, really evil....

but thats all the 2 cents worth though.

[Spokavriel]

Spell check failure today. Good tips but hard to read.

[ckosacranoid]

sorry about that guys..i really suck at typing at times.....sigh..at least someone liked the ideas though...