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Question on Chakra

Postby lcpoketoon » Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:43 am

Ok i've been toying with a story that will cross over Ranma, Naruto and YYH. I've come up with a fomula i think might work but i want to hear what others think of it an see if they have better ideas.
Ki= pyhsical energy ( used by Ranma )
+Reki= mental/spirit energy ( used by Yuseke )
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Chakra
+elemental Chi
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Elemental Chakra
Ki
+Yoki = demon mental/spirit energy ( used by demons in YYH )
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Demon Chakra ( energy created by the tailed beasts )
Tell me what you think of the fomula. My plan is to have it that Ranma does use Reki but only when he slips into the nekoken and the results of learning to tap into Reki to make chakra have him slowly mergeing with it.
also the Neko ken claws have always been made of Reki an that why none of the Ki trained fighters could see them.
There would also be Ranma training Naruto in useing his Ki an build up his Ki levels so that he could match the Yoki the fox inside him pours out so that he is able to keep control over the demon chakra.
Any help is much welcomed.
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Postby DCG » Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:30 am

I normaly think of it as.
Ki(life)+Reki(spirit)=Chakra(magic)
Simple, and its handle for larger cross overs.
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Postby Seraphim » Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:18 pm

Chakra = Stamina(energy produced by cells in the body) + Mental energy.
So the Ki/Reiki combination would work.
YuYu Hakusho does have an other set of 'classes' that have nothing to do with a beings strength it hasn't been explained completely (only Kurama's class was mentioned), but someone has expanded on in a fic I've read before.
EDIT: Here: (Mind that the fic was a YYH/HP xover)
1. Castle (White) Healing, protection, order
2. Oracle (Divination) Premonition, clairvoyance
3. Divine (Light) Images, light, absence of
4. Siren (Sound) Enchantment, Sirens, Banshees
5. Forest (Particulates) Disease, chemical gas, some fogs
6. Ember (Shapeshift) AniMage, MetamorphMage
7. Province (Remote) Voodoo dolls, models
8. Quest (Probe) Uses and controls power in object < Kurama's class
9. Dragon (Element) Metal, stone, air, water, fire
10. Philosopher (Conversion) Matter to magic to matter
11. Net (Merging) Mixing magics
12. Knight (Warrior) Manifestation of weapon, pen
13. Gauntlet (Power) Self-enhancement, self-reinforcement
14. Feast (Absorb) Power consumption
15. Crucible (Black) Destruction, corruption, chaos
16. Rogue (Spacetime) Luck, invention
17. Catchall (Everything else) All magics that can't/haven't been classified
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Postby iiradned » Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:02 pm

Chakras for me are nexi of energy within the human body. Each chakra influneces some aspect of our bodies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra
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Postby FOG3 » Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:41 pm

Well in reality:
Qi = Energy, explaining it beyond that to someone who hasn't keyed into it is less then fruitful. Let's just say it's basically the Force as Yoda explained it, because it's basically the same concept.
Reiki = Basically super energy from this outside source which I've never really gotten a good explanation for. Much like Ki I expect you ultimately have to experience it. Whatever it is it's above Ki, and you're apparently just kind of lightly directing it to heal someone instead of using your own energy control as you would with Qi. I've never really met a Reiki Mater, although I've heard of them.
Chakras = nodes in the network that the energy flows through. There are seven major ones located at the crown of the head, the fore head, the throat, the heart, the Solar Plexus, the Hara (usually considered the source of energy), and the end of the tail bone. There is also a focus on using just the hara, heart, and third eye chakras, and people who only focus on working with just one Chakra for various reasons.
Naruto seems to have switched terminology so Chakra refers to Qi, and Gates refer to the actual Chakras. Ranma 1/2 doesn't really deal with Qi, it deals with Auras and aura projection hence a kind of crude and inefficient control. Ki would be Dragonball, which many people in the fan community apply to Ranma without even thinking about it. Reiki in YYH is otherworldly enough to at least hide in the real things dust jacket.
None of them from what I've seen seem to have ITITQs operating above base the level, which gives a kind of unreliable "danger sense." The Naruto people can use hereditary abilities to observe techniques and "Chakra" flow to great effect, but this isn't really what an ITITQ is about.
Just another possibility.
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Postby DCG » Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:45 pm

"Ranma 1/2 doesn't really deal with Qi, it deals with Auras and aura projection hence a kind of crude and inefficient control. Ki would be Dragonball, which many people in the fan community apply to Ranma without even thinking about it."
Huh?
And just how did you come up with that one?
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Postby FOG3 » Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:27 pm

90% of the time what are they talking about? Battle Auras.
90% of the time what are they projecting/using with the nonwrestling attacks? Auras including but not limited to Battle and Lust based.
It's kind of shoving a square block through a round hole to simply declare that Qi simply because you want to. There's more difference in concept between that and the Qi, then between a lot of the others. That's my take on it, and it's self consistant.
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Postby DCG » Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:39 pm

Yes, Therories.
You see my problem is with the "Well in reality" and then you try to come across as knowing ever thing.
It would indeed be a helpfull post had you not tried to lay ever thing out as fact.
Meh, any way. Just what do you think the Auras would be powered by?
Most make the leap of faith with common sense to KI. In sted of say, magical fairy dust.
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Postby FOG3 » Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:57 pm

DCG wrote:Yes, Therories.
You see my problem is with the "Well in reality" and then you try to come across as knowing ever thing.
It would indeed be a helpfull post had you not tried to lay ever thing out as fact.

Uh, say what? My amateurish explanation of these concepts (Qi, Reiki, Chakras) which the names are ripping off from came off as smarmy mouthed? <.< >.> Uhm, okay.
Some reason I can't follow that with my own interpretation of things?
DCG wrote:Meh, any way. Just what do you think the Auras would be powered by?
Most make the leap of faith with common sense to KI. In sted of say, magical fairy dust.
Uhm, okay. I'm not the first person you've come across to point out that Fanon Ranma steals a lot of components pretty much straight from Dragonball, am I? You need to:
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Postby Sailor Sedai (Ellf) » Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:02 pm

FOG3 wrote:[Uhm, okay. I'm not the first person you've come across to point out that Fanon Ranma steals a lot of components pretty much straight from Dragonball, am I? You need to:

Actually I do believe that the Shishi Hokodan and the Mokou Takabisha are specifically mentioned as Ki based attacks in the manga. (Side note: careful about arguing with the mods, both of you seem to be getting a little snitty.)
I'll see if I can dig up the page that it's on in a bit.
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Postby DCG » Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:40 pm

Remove the over sized pic.
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Postby claymade » Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:55 pm

Sailor Sedai (Ellf) wrote:Actually I do believe that the Shishi Hokodan and the Mokou Takabisha are specifically mentioned as Ki based attacks in the manga.

Indeed. And as if that weren't enough, Herb specifically links Ranma's Hiryu Shoten Ha to the use and projection of Ki.
http://ranmahentai.ranma.ws/RanmaManga/Book24/RM24-171.gif
So, it seems pretty clear that battle auras are in fact manifestations of ki. In fact, in the Ranma-verse, the two terms seem to be essentially interchangable--Herbs blasts are referred to as a "fighting aura" technique here:
http://ranmahentai.ranma.ws/RanmaManga/Book24/RM24-027.gif
So, yeah. No fanon or Dragonball ripoffs required at all to make that particular connection--it's right there in the matterial.
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