How would you fix Ranma's life

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Postby Ordieth117 » Sun Jan 07, 2007 11:25 pm

I've read two amazing ways of curing Ranma's problems; "Couch Trips" and "Right Moments". Neither really helps all that much, although they both have strong lessons you could use.
The lessons focus around ways of getting Ranma over his inadequacies. Either through careful therapy, or through harsh life lessons that are meaningful but don't have negative lasting impact.
If you want to keep the story interesting though, go with what someone else here said: don't solve problems, replace them.
Even the solutions can be interesting problems of their own. The "lesser of two evils" so to speak.
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Postby FOG3 » Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:52 pm

Fatherz wrote:GTO or Gokusen, then :lol: ?
Yankumi? She's more like the teacher that will not give up on people who everyone else would. The only times I remember her causing a revelation, were when the person was well over halfway there and she basically just had to give them the proper nudge. At the last verifiable check her students were still unmotivated, and hadn't really learned anything she tried to teach. Plus she's tied down to Shiroken High School. Unless you're imply she allows him into the Ooedo Clan, which would turn him into another of her melodramatic Yakuza buddies, Yankumi seems an odd and not particularly good choice.
A visit from Aoko Aozaki (Tsukihime) sounds more like what you're shooting for with a permutation of:
"I won't tell you to become a saint. You should just become an adult who is able to do what you believe is right. If you are able to accept what's bad and apologize just like now, you'll become an wonderful boy in 10 years."
Of course, canon Ranma more or less was already that way at the intro. As can be seen in his general behavior patterns in Volume 1. In universe I guess we can blame the nature of the contrived situation and the umptilian blows to the head with heavy objects.
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Postby Pale Wolf » Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:46 am

visit from Aoko Aozaki (Tsukihime) sounds more like what you're shooting for with a permutation of:
"I won't tell you to become a saint. You should just become an adult who is able to do what you believe is right. If you are able to accept what's bad and apologize just like now, you'll become an wonderful boy in 10 years."
Of course, canon Ranma more or less was already that way at the intro. As can be seen in his general behavior patterns in Volume 1. In universe I guess we can blame the nature of the contrived situation and the umptilian blows to the head with heavy objects.

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Postby FOG3 » Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:54 pm

Well if you're the official Deranged Type-Moon Crossover writer, it can't be all that bad. :wink:
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Re: How would you fix Ranma's life

Postby Raneko » Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:37 am

You know there are some fics were after Genma and Ranma leave for there little trip. Nodoka devoices Genma and marries Soun.
To really screw things up and give a panda a heart attack. Have Soun die.
Have Kimiko (mother tendo) and Nodoka together.
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Postby Alathon » Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:51 pm

Heh.. Nodoka has accepted that her husband just plain ran off, and "Kimiko"'s husband is dead, and now they two of them are together. And Akane is as a result out of the closet and actually gets enough time with Ranma to sneak in a kiss before she finds out he's actually a guy. Sounds explosive to me!
I like the idea of fixing Ryoga up with Shampoo, that makes a lot of sense in terms of keeping the original characters around, but not so 100% fixated on Ranma. I really don't like ditching the curses, because Ranma's at least is a big part of the story and losing it takes away from who he is. He's just another fighting game characters without it, really.. you could sub in half a dozen characters from King of Fighters or Street Fighter or even friggin' Mortal Kombat, without the curse.
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Postby claymade » Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:40 am

Alathon wrote:I like the idea of fixing Ryoga up with Shampoo, that makes a lot of sense in terms of keeping the original characters around, but not so 100% fixated on Ranma. I really don't like ditching the curses, because Ranma's at least is a big part of the story and losing it takes away from who he is. He's just another fighting game characters without it, really.. you could sub in half a dozen characters from King of Fighters or Street Fighter or even friggin' Mortal Kombat, without the curse.

Oh, of course. For the initial premise of a story, taking away the curse is (in most cases) not advisible. However, if I'm understanding things correctly, the "fixing change" in this particular idea occurs not as part of the fic's setup, but actually as part of its denouement. The curse is such a good plot element precisely because of the conflict it can generate--thus a reason you don't want to remove it at the outset, but also why it makes sense (if you're going to end things by fixing everything) to fix that for Ranma as well.
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Postby Raneko » Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:25 am

Alathon wrote:Heh.. Nodoka has accepted that her husband just plain ran off, and "Kimiko"'s husband is dead, and now they two of them are together. And Akane is as a result out of the closet and actually gets enough time with Ranma to sneak in a kiss before she finds out he's actually a guy. Sounds explosive to me!
I like the idea of fixing Ryoga up with Shampoo, that makes a lot of sense in terms of keeping the original characters around, but not so 100% fixated on Ranma. I really don't like ditching the curses, because Ranma's at least is a big part of the story and losing it takes away from who he is. He's just another fighting game characters without it, really.. you could sub in half a dozen characters from King of Fighters or Street Fighter or even friggin' Mortal Kombat, without the curse.

Akane conspireing to lock ranma in his curse form. should make things funny.
I agree with the whole curses thing.
Most of the time when I complain about Ranma lacking a curse. People call me a freak. :cry:
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Postby ChasTaro » Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:35 am

Fix Ranma's problems in a story! That's easy! A week before the start of the Ten year training trip, and before the sepuku contract was finger painted. Genma gets killed by a car while J-walking. Ranma gets raised by his mother who would probably remarry as soon as she can find a manly husband. Ranma goes to school like other kids his age has friends. ect. ect. He may end up as a jock, and a skirt chaser because of his mothers influence, but hey, every school has guy's like that.
:roll: BORRING! :roll:

Its all the problems in ranma's life that make Ranma 1/2 so entertaining.
So if your going to fix them, be sure to give him some new ones to replace them, and that is cannon. Every time Ranma overcame some problem it came back or was replaced by a new one.
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Postby Ordieth117 » Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:25 am

ChasTaro wrote:Fix Ranma's problems in a story! That's easy! A week before the start of the Ten year training trip, and before the sepuku contract was finger painted. Genma gets killed by a car while J-walking. Ranma gets raised by his mother who would probably remarry as soon as she can find a manly husband. Ranma goes to school like other kids his age has friends. ect. ect. He may end up as a jock, and a skirt chaser because of his mothers influence, but hey, every school has guy's like that.
:roll: BORRING! :roll:

Its all the problems in ranma's life that make Ranma 1/2 so entertaining.
So if your going to fix them, be sure to give him some new ones to replace them, and that is cannon. Every time Ranma overcame some problem it came back or was replaced by a new one.

Bah, that's not fixing the problems, that's avoiding them.
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Postby Southern Cross » Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:47 am

That's correct.However good drama REQUIRES conflict.On the other hand,most of Ranma's problems have outstayed their welcome.This is one reason why Ranma/Sailor Moon fanfics are so popular-they give Ranma a new goal (protecting the Earth),he (or she) gets friends to offer help,he makes new enemies,and he possibly gets a new fiancee'.
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Postby ChasTaro » Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:06 am

Ordieth117 replied to my previous post.
Bah, that's not fixing the problems, that's avoiding them.

Yes I agree it is avoiding the problem. The real point I was trying to make, was the almost all of Ranma's problems can be traced back to Genma in one way or another. He's the root of the problem so to speak.
So until Genma is dealt with in some way, the problems won't go away, and he will keep adding to them.
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Postby bissek » Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:50 am

But the Kuno mess ultimately traces back to Soun. Kodachi didn't need the dopey duo to become a problem. Principal Kuno is his own source of trouble, Taro traces back to Happosai, and Happosai isn't really Genma's fault (Though the reverse is arguably true). Chardin is either Soun's fault or jointly Soun and Genma. While the bulk of Ranma's problems come from Genma, his father isn't the source of all of them.
Ranma 1/2 isn't like Evangelion. There, EVERYTHING, including the low quality of the Tokyo-3 education system, traces back to the hero's father somehow.
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Postby Lord Aries Greymon » Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:43 pm

Staren wrote:Going along with that line of thinking, the solution would be to make the girls see where their immediate goals might lead, what life would really be like. Not trying to make this a crossover or anything, but what would the Ranma cast see if they got hold of Pluto's portable link to the time gates that she used while in the field, that simply showed probable futures after a change. What would their reaction to that information be, and what would they do with it?
This little toy wouldn't have to be from the SM universe, that was just an easy back story for it.

Been done, but it was shards of the Nanban mirror made into lockets, that Nodoka had sent to all of the fiancees.
I remember that Kodachi actually had Ranma's body stuffed and put in a wheelchair, but I've forgotten what happened with the others.
Worse, I've forgotten the fic, and never did have a link. Don't believe I favorited it either.
Fairly certain it was on FanFiction.Net
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Postby Drawde » Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:07 pm

Unless I say otherwise, if I'm discussing Ranma canon, I'm talking about the MANGA.
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