Things you really don't care for in fan-fiction

[Noy Telinú]

*shrug* perhaps. At least the first part.

It's weird that the only time that Ranma is in a sub role is when he's a she with Ryoga or such.

Seems like some reluctance to have female on top or lezdom...

It doesn't bother me as much as the rest of these, but I did do the reverse in the fooled thread at BEA. While not exactly giving himself, Ranma is made the slave to Akane in a both and lezdom way. Not to mention mutual slavery at fanfiction dot net.

Is it a cultural thing in anime? That the girls, no matter how tough, will always be the sub in a relationship once it gets to that level? I know no guy wants to be chased (Shampoo), but these strong girls character wise just melt and blush and be so... Weak once they are in a relationship. Outside Yuri, that is.

What bugs me in fanfiction is how the pairing will get to sickening sweethearts when they shouldn't so quickly. Uhg... Couples have fights as well you know...

[Crescent Pulsar S]

Well, it's a man's world, and the vast majority of the fan-fiction stories in question are probably written by men, so maybe "cultural" isn't too far off the mark. But, yeah, what else do you expect? When sexual fantasies are written from a straight guy's perspective, it's pretty common to find the male characters being large and in charge, and doing whatever they want and getting away with it unless it's already kosher within the setting.

[Noy Telinú]

I disagree because of 2 things.

One,http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MostFanficWritersAreGirls

And 2,

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when I get this email from fanfiction dot net, then at least the perception that fanfics are mostly made by girls are assumed.

The difference is, recommended stories from tv tropes tend to be adventure stories made by guys are terrible romance failures by girls.

So while men may have written these things I find, the numbers aren't backing it up. Twilight is written by a woman and it's as anti woman as you can get!

[Crescent Pulsar S]

Your first disagreement is based on a more broader context than what I was referring to. Besides which, simply basing your argument on numbers doesn't mean that it will be reflected exactly as such at any given place (like the AA and BEA) for any particular thing of interest. Also, some series will attract more female fan-fiction writers and others will attract more males. Can you honestly tell me with confidence that most of the stories at the AA or BEA, in regard to those scenarios that happen to Akane (becoming a slave (by choice or force), dog girl, robot, doll, et cetera), which there doesn't seem to be a reverse for, are mostly written by females?

And I have no idea what that second disagreement is supposed to mean or how it was supposed to function as an argument. It made no sense to me whatsoever. You have to assume that there's more female writers because a reader of your story wants to be alerted when it's updated? XD

[TerraEpon]

And 2, ...when I get this email from fanfiction dot net, then at least the perception that fanfics are mostly made by girls are assumed.

A greater percentage of fanfiction, is general, is written by females.

The opposite is true of Ranma fanfiction, however.

[Gnudist]

Fanfics with a theme song. As in, the lyrics are posted at the start of every chapter. Terrible.

[Noy Telinú]

A greater percentage of fanfiction, is general, is written by females.

The opposite is true of Ranma fanfiction, however.

Oh really? O_o Huh... the more you know...

Fanfics with a theme song. As in, the lyrics are posted at the start of every chapter. Terrible.

You mean before the fic really starts... yeah, those can be annoying.

And I have no idea what that second disagreement is supposed to mean or how it was supposed to function as an argument. It made no sense to me whatsoever. You have to assume that there's more female writers because a reader of your story wants to be alerted when it's updated? XD

It says She/He, not he/she. To get THAT distinction, it must be really, really female heavy.

I don't really care for fics that try to have it take place in the "real world" using real physics and real stuff like that. I can enjoy the fic, i just don't care for that stuff. I'd much rather have it acknowledge that the physics don't add and up such.

[Spokavriel]

Depends on if the song fits, length of the verses used etc. The most annoying ones include the full lyrics of a song which can get the fic yanked for copyright infringement due to unauthorized re-transmission of copyrighted material not covered by fair use. Because its the full song. It would be like saying its ok for someone to steal artwork from the Louvre museum and keep it if they put it into a diorama. Or say display it on a parade float because now this whole work of art is sitting there as part of something someone else made.

[Crescent Pulsar S]

I often skim past the lyrics of songs if they're in a story and none of the phrases are separated by whatever else is happening. Even then, I don't think I've ever encountered a story whose author put the two parts together in a way where there wasn't any glaring disparity between them, regarding the passage of time.

I've contemplated using a song in at least one of my stories, but I wonder how it would sit with readers if I made my own song and lyrics into an actual audio file. As a part of the finale for the tale. ;/

It says She/He, not he/she. To get THAT distinction, it must be really, really female heavy.

Ah, so that's what you were getting at.

...And now I don't see how that conclusion could be drawn with such evidence. Whoever wrote that message could have been female with a habit of placing her own sex first. It could have been a transgendered guy who feels the need to give special treatment to the opposite sex. While unlikely, it could have been a choice based on some perceived political correctness. Regardless of sex, the order could have been an unconscious rather than intentional choice. Or, again regardless of sex, for whatever reason they felt the need to put it that way intentionally.

Basically, how can you be sure that it's pandering to a majority?

A greater percentage of fanfiction, is general, is written by females.

The opposite is true of Ranma fanfiction, however.

Oh really? O_o Huh... the more you know...

You're supposed to ask for the source that supports that claim. XD

I can understand finding out which sex writes more fan-fiction in general, but Ranma 1/2 isn't one of the bigger fan-bases out there, so I wouldn't expect anyone to have any real idea of which sex writes more fan-fiction for it.

[Spokavriel]

Or it could just be someone who wrote s\he and in spell check ended up editing it to have both so it would stop dinging it.

[Ellen Kuhfeld]

Written/read by females/males? It's hard to tell with noms-de-plume like 'Toasted Pine', fringeperson', or 'Pheonix'. You can't even trust the pictures. And much depends on the fandom. Harry Potter fics, I'd expect authors of both sexes. Wedding Peach? Not so.

[Spica75]

It says She/He, not he/she. To get THAT distinction, it must be really, really female heavy.

Hardly.

It´s just standard to write s/he because that´s the shortest way to do it and for some reason some write it out completely instead.

Also, in original English, "she" is used by default if gender is needed but unknown. This later became turned around (i never managed to find a reason for it happening though) and today it´s a rather twisted mess where the majority defaults to "he"(even when by modern standards they shouldn´t) and what is the norm or should be default it an open question.
And the he/she vs she/he or s/he is mixed up in that mess. And it´s very common to write her/his regardless of writer´s gender. It doesn´t have anything at all to do with the number of writers or readers gender. And beyond that, most members on FFN doesn´t even state gender, so how could they know?
You are essentially connecting dots that probably doesn´t even exist.

[Ellen Kuhfeld]

Back in the eighties, I had a large job of writing where I wanted to de-gender a bunch of things that traditionally were gendered. Neologisms like sie and hir just weren't cutting it. (They work when discussing, say, Ranma or Konatsu. They don't work, in large quantities, when discussing everyday people.)

I found solace in the third person plural. They is not gendered, even if most of the people subsumed under that word are. But even today, English doesn't do well when you are speaking of one person of indeterminate gender. Different people will have different ways of trying to deal with it. Making decisions from that is hard, and results will vary.

[Spica75]

Back in the eighties, I had a large job of writing where I wanted to de-gender a bunch of things that traditionally were gendered. Neologisms like sie and hir just weren't cutting it. (They work when discussing, say, Ranma or Konatsu. They don't work, in large quantities, when discussing everyday people.)

I found solace in the third person plural. They is not gendered, even if most of the people subsumed under that word are. But even today, English doesn't do well when you are speaking of one person of indeterminate gender. Different people will have different ways of trying to deal with it. Making decisions from that is hard, and results will vary.

Quite. Same issue with Swedish, which is why recently there has been a bit of pushing for adding "hen" as an indeterminate together with the usual "han"(he/him) and "hon"(she/her).
Some are NOT happy about such dreadful foolishness, but overall it´s looking like it will work fine, "hen" already existed as a dialectal use of "en"(one) in the way of "one should do so..." and "den/det"(it/that) and gender neutral overall often uses "e" like that so "hen" really does sound like a neutral of "han/hon" from the start.

[Spokavriel]

I think the switch from she to he as default in English language could likely be traced back to shortly after the Barbary Pirate wars. When American printed news papers started to get global distribution. Ben Franklin had printed his uniform English language dictionary and American Newspapers of the time were using He for the neutral just to further break from how England was doing things after they had been attacking us and doing things like setting fire to our new national capitol.