Have their ever been a case of Lemon enhancing a fic?

[Vahn]

Just wondering, I get more PM for lemons then I do reviews which is pretty...amazing in on itself. My stance have always been lemons take away from the fic even self contained ones and I freely tell people to write it if they want, but now that I have written one of every genre except Lemons. I wonder if I should try my hand at it for the challenge? But at the same time, does it really add anything to the story in general? If I were to do it it would be for the Seahorse Original Verison, that missing part during the rain.

So have there ever been any fanfic where the lemons add to the story or is it just there for eye candy so to speak?

[Crescent Pulsar S]

I've seen sex scenes complement a story, but I can't say that I've ever seen one enhance a story. If it's there simply to have the element present, or the story is just an excuse to write it, then you're doing something wrong in this context. If it adds to what's going on in the story, and/or is the climax naturally achieved through storytelling, it can complement a story well. Otherwise, unless the story itself is full of sex, lemons can easily be out of place if not present at the right time and for the right reason(s).

[Spokavriel]

It depends. Most of the time its just well porn. but it can be done in ways that illustrate the characters feelings. I think Seahorse's missing moment could be one of those but its not easy to carry off that way.

[Spica75]

I've seen sex scenes complement a story, but I can't say that I've ever seen one enhance a story.

Pretty much...

It depends. Most of the time its just well porn. but it can be done in ways that illustrate the characters feelings.

Aye.

Just wondering, I get more PM for lemons then I do reviews which is pretty...amazing in on itself.

Seriously? That´s weird.

I wonder if I should try my hand at it for the challenge?

If YOU WANT to, then play around and see if you can do something decent(or indecent ), but if you´re not really interested, don´t bother.

Most of the time its just well porn.

It´s kinda funny though, every time i´ve seen a writer specifically state that something is PWOP, ie Porn With Out Plot, the story invariably ends up getting a decent plot anyway. I think i even have one of those favorited on TTH somewhere.

[Spokavriel]

Never claimed porn to be plotless. Nor pointless. It just often becomes something better imagined than shown when it doesn't come up to expectations. And for a guy to be so good that it makes an avowed lesbian want to return because of the emotional aspect. That is a high bar to clear.

[Vahn]

Never claimed porn to be plotless. Nor pointless. It just often becomes something better imagined than shown when it doesn't come up to expectations. And for a guy to be so good that it makes an avowed lesbian want to return because of the emotional aspect. That is a high bar to clear.

./ jumps over that bar.

Oh no you didn't! I like challenges, I'll see if I can comd up with something emotionally smutty.

[Spica75]

Never claimed porn to be plotless.

Not what i said. I noted that writers specifically stating that a story was MEANT TO BE PWOP, still often ended up doing surprisingly much or even good plot.

[Konsaki]

In my opinion, sex scenes can be completly skipped over in every story save pure porn works. If you just move forward to show the 'afterglow' scene or even the next morning and have a character remenice, it shows the reader something happened. In most situations, though, if you removed all mention of the sex scene even occuring, it most likely wouldn't effect the story plot one bit.

I have seen a couple stories do a sex scene where one person backs down before the lime can change to lemon for character interaction reasons. Whether this scene is really needed or not depends greatly on the focus of the story and how deeply the author thinks it is needed.

Personally, I wouldn't make/add any sex scenes to your story just because some reader asked for one.

[Crescent Pulsar S]

Personally, I wouldn't make/add any sex scenes to your story just because some reader asked for one.

Yes. And I'd like to add that if a sex scene didn't develop naturally as you wrote the story, chances are it isn't needed. It'll likely only mean that one hand will become more preoccupied than the other, rather than there being anything added to the story that had been missing before.

[Vahn]

It'll likely only mean that one hand will become more preoccupied than the other

[Crescent Pulsar S]

Good! That means you passed your eye exam.

[ckosacranoid]

./ jumps over that bar.

Oh no you didn't! I like challenges, I'll see if I can comd up with something emotionally smutty.[/quote]

Here is your challenge, you have to start with one of animes manly wimps, keichi from goddes, the creey magic kid from ranma with the candels on his head, techi from tenchi, shinji from eve, among others. The goal with orders from on high (are you going to tell god no you are not.) To become a man of the world to seduce at least known lesbo to be wothy of his dauther or someother thing that is needed. Great, he just told by god to become one of the best womenizers ever seen. James bond and captain kirk, eat your heart out.
I am very sorry, but I had to toss something in that...hehehehe

[Spokavriel]

./ jumps over that bar.

Oh no you didn't! I like challenges, I'll see if I can comd up with something emotionally smutty.

Here is your challenge, you have to start with one of animes manly wimps, keichi from goddes, the creey magic kid from ranma with the candels on his head, techi from tenchi, shinji from eve, among others. The goal with orders from on high (are you going to tell god no you are not.) To become a man of the world to seduce at least known lesbo to be wothy of his dauther or someother thing that is needed. Great, he just told by god to become one of the best womenizers ever seen. James bond and captain kirk, eat your heart out.
I am very sorry, but I had to toss something in that...hehehehe

So the challenge is to become an average lame lemon writer... Are you sure about that one?

[phwise]

As others have said: it depends.

Yes, lemon can enhance a fic. Exploring a character's sexuality can, in fact, be a valuable insight into who they are. However, this carries with it a number of problems that must be addressed. The first is the fact that a lot of authors get so caught up in the fact that they're writing a sex scene that they forget to write a good one. The second is that a lot of authors get so caught up in the fact that they're writing a sex scene that they make it cheap and exploitative. Basically pornography. Now, there's nothing wrong with porn per se, but it typically doesn't enhance stories. Contrary to popular belief, it is possible to have a sex scene that isn't porn, that isn't cheap, that isn't exploitative, that isn't Ikea Erotica, and that actually enhances a story in a meaningful way that you couldn't get without it. It's just really, really hard.

[Konsaki]

As others have said: it depends.

Yes, lemon can enhance a fic. Exploring a character's sexuality can, in fact, be a valuable insight into who they are. However, this carries with it a number of problems that must be addressed. The first is the fact that a lot of authors get so caught up in the fact that they're writing a sex scene that they forget to write a good one. The second is that a lot of authors get so caught up in the fact that they're writing a sex scene that they make it cheap and exploitative. Basically pornography. Now, there's nothing wrong with porn per se, but it typically doesn't enhance stories. Contrary to popular belief, it is possible to have a sex scene that isn't porn, that isn't cheap, that isn't exploitative, that isn't Ikea Erotica, and that actually enhances a story in a meaningful way that you couldn't get without it. It's just really, really hard.

So what you're saying is, it's easier and more effective to NOT write a lemon sex scene and to instead just write around it. That's pretty much what's already been stated in this thread.