Strained Harmony ch4

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Re: Strained Harmony ch4

Postby Mahou Sensou » Mon Apr 07, 2014 1:56 pm

Dumbledork wrote:Well, it's impossible to please everyone. I for one enjoy the story, even if there are some things I don't like either.

Complainign about your writing style however is futile. You have your style and it's similar for each of your stories. So, I don't really see why People are still complaining about it. They should know by now what to expect.


This.

Complaining about the prereaders not keeping the author constrained to one's own ideal of the story progression seems like a curious use of electrons.

Sunshine's writing in a nutshell: vague hints, layered nuances, and a plot as subtle as a 10 storey ape raging through city centre.

You can love it, hate it, or, apparently, love to hate it.
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Re: Strained Harmony ch4

Postby Sunshine Temple » Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:01 pm

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Actually your initial thought on CU's reaction is correct. She was very excited to see the new bunny style. And yeah I didn't mean Hotaru's reaction to be resentful anger. I'll see what I can do to clarify that initial scene.

A small quibble, the scene with the Countess isn't really a fight scene. It's more "I tie you up and interrogate you scene". Ch3's got a closer fight scene.

But yes, the Countess is a bit of a tone shift. She does get more play in ch5, and has been hinted at in the previous chapters. That said, it is a discordant shift.

Maybe I can have Setsuna bring up the pervious fight as a bit of a way to "prelude" that scene. I'll have to see what works.

There's good news on the timeline stuff. Mahou Sensou and Crimson Vixen have actually been helping me straighten things out. Including formalizing the story's timeline. Yeah... stuff I should have already have setup.

There's some inconsistent times and seasons and the like. So far the first three chapters on my fukufics page have been revised with a first pass to get the main inconsistencies. However, this is a work in progress.

(The version on my ff.net page hasn't yet been updated so the contrast can be seen there).

As for the train wreck... oh yeah. The wheels really start to come off in ch5. And when Akane finds Ranma. Hehee

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Thanks. Rescuing myself seemed like the sensible thing.

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Aww, well it should be a fun reread. Though as I told ijp92 you might want to reread the chapters put on the fukufics.com/fic page

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Heh. Thanks. Yeah I do like to have a mix of subtlety and blatancy.
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Re: Strained Harmony ch4

Postby Té Rowan » Tue Apr 08, 2014 2:46 pm

LawOhki wrote:There's ten hugs ... almost 40 total over all. ...

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Re: Strained Harmony ch4

Postby Konsaki » Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:23 pm

Té Rowan wrote:Never Underestimate the Power of the Hug!

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Re: Strained Harmony ch4

Postby LawOhki » Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:28 pm

Té Rowan wrote:Never Underestimate the Power of the Hug!

I do not, just as I do not underestimate the power to diminish it's power by turning it into a common reaction for any trivial action.
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Re: Strained Harmony ch4

Postby Té Rowan » Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:07 pm

Pft. Only way a hug would get diminished like that is if it were false affection in the first place.
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Re: Strained Harmony ch4

Postby Konsaki » Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:18 pm

Té Rowan wrote:Pft. Only way a hug would get diminished like that is if it were false affection in the first place.
Counterargument: A piece of cake on a rare occasion is meaningful and fulfilling for enjoyment. A piece of cake at every meal becomes mundane and bland.
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Re: Strained Harmony ch4

Postby Sunshine Temple » Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:54 pm

Update: I'm doing some revisions to the first two scenes. Basically what I talked with ijp92 about. This week's been pretty hectic for me so it's not quite ready to post up as a fixed version. Hopefully by Friday.
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Re: Strained Harmony ch4

Postby Té Rowan » Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:45 am

Konsaki wrote:Counterargument: A piece of cake on a rare occasion is meaningful and fulfilling for enjoyment. A piece of cake at every meal becomes mundane and bland.

Counter-do: Cake is lust. Hug is love.
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Re: Strained Harmony ch4

Postby Sunshine Temple » Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:08 pm

Update: Did some corrections to the first two scenes as per my previous comments to ijp92. Hopefully that helps the Chibi-Usa stuff and the Countess scene.
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Re: Strained Harmony ch4

Postby Cheb » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:40 pm

Ch. 1:

It's a funny thing: I was reading this as an utterly unfamiliar, new fanfic until I hit that scene with the steaks. By some reason it triggered my memory making me remember most of the rest.

Ch. 3:

>Ami did not have any ideas on how she had gotten her powers, but she had been a comforting ear on the whole "no magic attacks" problem.
Mercury Lv.1 was a badass support character. She did have devastating attacks, just not the kind the other girls had. Others specialize in killing singular strong mobs. Mercury specializes in AOE against swarms of low-level mobs. True, she couldn't even scratch strong enemies. But other girls (except maybe Moon) were as helpless against swarm attacks be it nanomachines, a herd of possessed butterflies of a cloud of self-guided magical grapeshot.

This just emphasizes the fact they are a team and must fight as a team.

My point: their conversations concerning the subject put too little emphasis of Hestia being a badass support (or old Lv.1 Mercury being a badass support). I can imagine Ranma being greatly annoyed by such a role, it could be played nicely.

In overall, the relevant scenes cover this subject, but not adequately IMO.

Ch. 4:

I am glad to see Nodoka making some progress.

>ose in that fight... and Miss creepy shadow bounced right back up.
Oh no. Don't tell me that that woman is a good guy. Well, after reading The Return a reader jumping at shadows is excusable.

>Misato rolled her eyes. "We've got a club meeting."
There's also the matter of names. I can understand one or two matching well known anime characters. But all names of all female OCs being something out of well known anime? Not cool. There is probably some hidden intent here, but outwardly it looks like the author is too lazy to look up Japanese names lists.

>had stepped in to safe the life of their Princess, and it would not be the last.

>, but here you are building a dating network. Right. Under. Their. Noses.
[nods sagely] Yes, Usagi's matchmaking tendencies are scarily powerful.

>and while the bags for Hotaru's of training gear

> Smiling, Setsuna watched the redhead glide down the hallway and turn out of sight.
Oh, I may be wrong, but this is beginning to feel like a pairing.
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Re: Strained Harmony ch4

Postby Sunshine Temple » Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:09 pm

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Ch. 1:

It's a funny thing: I was reading this as an utterly unfamiliar, new fanfic until I hit that scene with the steaks. By some reason it triggered my memory making me remember most of the rest.

[Heh. That's rather interesting.
[maybe the description was vivid enough to "unlock" the memories.

Ch. 3:

>Ami did not have any ideas on how she had gotten her powers, but she had been a comforting ear on the whole "no magic attacks" problem.
Mercury Lv.1 was a badass support character. She did have devastating attacks, just not the kind the other girls had. Others specialize in killing singular strong mobs. Mercury specializes in AOE against swarms of low-level mobs. True, she couldn't even scratch strong enemies. But other girls (except maybe Moon) were as helpless against swarm attacks be it nanomachines, a herd of possessed butterflies of a cloud of self-guided magical grapeshot.

This just emphasizes the fact they are a team and must fight as a team.

My point: their conversations concerning the subject put too little emphasis of Hestia being a badass support (or old Lv.1 Mercury being a badass support). I can imagine Ranma being greatly annoyed by such a role, it could be played nicely.

In overall, the relevant scenes cover this subject, but not adequately IMO.

[Good point.

[Hmmm maybe something like this as a revision?

[[
I'm also such a girly magical girl that I can't even hurt a monster but at least I'm a damn good medic. And the girls could use another one of those, Ranma thought to herself. And Ami thinks I'm not egotistical.

Ami did not have any ideas on how she had gotten her powers, but she had been a comforting ear on the whole "no flashy magic attacks" problem. Her early powers had specialized in support, intelligence, and defense. For one, Ami was very good at neutralizing massed minions.
]]

Ch. 4:

I am glad to see Nodoka making some progress.

[Excellent. She has a bit more in ch5, albeit indirect.

>ose in that fight... and Miss creepy shadow bounced right back up.
Oh no. Don't tell me that that woman is a good guy. Well, after reading The Return a reader jumping at shadows is excusable.

[Good guy? Hehehe

[Let's just say, while you'll probably cheer what she does in ch5, you still won't think of her as good.

>Misato rolled her eyes. "We've got a club meeting."
There's also the matter of names. I can understand one or two matching well known anime characters. But all names of all female OCs being something out of well known anime? Not cool. There is probably some hidden intent here, but outwardly it looks like the author is too lazy to look up Japanese names lists.

[That's interesting because the bigger named OC's: Nami, Kimiko, Kikuko, Etsuko, and Keiko aren't from any anime or manga.

[Though I suppose they don't stick out as much.

[Hmmm, I could change out Misato's name easily, in ch5 there's some more name references, and those actually have more "weight" to the reference.

>had stepped in to safe the life of their Princess, and it would not be the last.

[corrected

>, but here you are building a dating network. Right. Under. Their. Noses.
[nods sagely] Yes, Usagi's matchmaking tendencies are scarily powerful.

[Indeed. I was merciful and didn't have Minako and Makoto involved.
[Those three aren't alwasy obesssed with matchmaking... though Minako does call herself the goddess of love
[But when they get together...

>and while the bags for Hotaru's of training gear

[corrected.

> Smiling, Setsuna watched the redhead glide down the hallway and turn out of sight.
Oh, I may be wrong, but this is beginning to feel like a pairing.

[*coughs*

[Thanks for the comments!

[Now i haven't uploaded the corrections yet.

[I've still got to check the ch3 stuff.

[And there's if I'll swap out Misato's name in ch4
[I'm thinking I can.
[Though I'm tempted to go with Misako instead... on the other hand that would make this the third story that uses that name
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Re: Strained Harmony ch4

Postby Dumbledork » Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:10 pm

I agree with Cheb on the Ranma/Setsuna relationship advancement. I'm glad to see things moving along a bit. However, seeing that Ranma has been staying for such a long time with the Outers now I'm rather surprised the relationship hasn't gone any further than a quick kiss.

Hmm... I wonder if this will actually be a Ranma/Setsuna pairing in the end. As long as you don't have Ranma end up with a guy...
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Re: Strained Harmony ch4

Postby Sunshine Temple » Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:21 pm

Dumbledork

I agree with Cheb on the Ranma/Setsuna relationship advancement. I'm glad to see things moving along a bit. However, seeing that Ranma has been staying for such a long time with the Outers now I'm rather surprised the relationship hasn't gone any further than a quick kiss.

[The next chapter explores it moreso (and that's me being understated).
[As for why the relathionship has gone so slow is because their relationship grew in non-physical ways. Given how close they've grown by living with each other and raising Hotaru.

[There's also that both Ranma and Setsuna have a boatload of issues from their pasts.

Hmm... I wonder if this will actually be a Ranma/Setsuna pairing in the end. As long as you don't have Ranma end up with a guy...

[Heh. Would I do something like that?
[Mhahahaha

[In seriousness, yours and Cheb's gut instincts aren't off the mark.
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Re: Strained Harmony ch4

Postby Cheb » Sun Apr 13, 2014 1:03 am

[[... For one, Ami was very good at neutralizing massed minions.]]
And that's exactly the patch size this micro plot hole deserves :)

[Though I suppose they don't stick out as much.
In short it's the annoying reality of these names being non-native to us. I'm sure a Japanese speaker would not even notice.
[And there's if I'll swap out Misato's name in ch4
I think with this eyesore gone the illusion will effectively dispel.
Maybe it's because Misato is such a *rare* name? I, for example, only know one Misato, from NGE.
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