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Postby Tovath » Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:38 pm

SpaceKnight of Chaos wrote:She doesn't know she's going to break it at first- in fact, she only breaks it after Ranma insults her so badly (basically, telling her she's completely devoid of physical attractiveness and that she's never going to get anyone to marry them unless she manages to trick her into it). Not to mention that Kasumi wasn't just speaking as her elder sister, she was speaking as the effective feminine head of the household, asking Akane to treat the promise as though she'd been asked by their own mother.


putting aside the fact that just about anyone can guess that Ranma is going to be very insulting, Akane is still being attacked every morning by a bunch of guys and she doesn't have much choise about fighting them.
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Postby SpaceKnight of Chaos » Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:44 pm

She's not being asked not to hit people ever, just not to strike in anger. Defending herself from attackers is perfectly valid, Kasumi is just asking her to rein in her temper and stop pounding on people who make her mad. Given that she just KOed her own father in a rage, Kasumi has every right to ask her to try and control herself better.
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Postby Spokavriel » Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:45 pm

Really the bad with it would only be when she breaks it. The fact she had to be forced into it using her mom shows that Akane understands herself somewhat and if anything it would be a Bad for Kasumi forcing her to make a promise just about everyone other than Akane in that house knows with certainty is impossible to keep.
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Postby Pale Wolf » Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:34 pm

Could you help me clarify something?

Because Akane has no self-control...

It's a Bad action for Kasumi to ask her to control herself?
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Postby Spokavriel » Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:39 pm

No it isn't bad for her to do what she can to try to help Akane control herself better. But using emotional blackmail to force her to make a promise that cannot be kept by her is not what I consider to be a good way to do so.

Edit: Look at it this way. Does Kasumi provide any alternatives for Akane to deal with her anger? Does she do anything more than forcing the promise to not hit when angry? I know Kasumi isn't a trained Psychiatrist but all she did was demand using the strongest emotional chain she could pull. If she weren't the older sister knowing Akane all her life maybe I could find some ignorance excuse.
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Postby SpaceKnight of Chaos » Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:08 am

Here's the second season, as promised. Starting here, the seasons stretch to 24/25 episodes apiece and Akane shows up in just about every one- so you'll forgive me if it takes a while. Out of curiosity, when anime-Akane's list is done, will you be wanting me to do an Anime-Rivals list? As always, comment on marks you think need adjustment.

The Abduction of P-Chan
G: tries to politely ask Azusa for P-chan's return.
G: thanks Mikado when he retrieves her 'pet' and returns it.
E: is willing to fight for ownership of P-chan.
B: stupidly refuses to back down, despite having a golden opportunity to do so, after hearing her opponents are world-class champions at Martial Arts Figure Skating with a record of 999 consecutive victories.
E: tells Azusa that she'll die before she gives up P-chan.
G: gets mad when Mikado tries to kiss her.
E: not impressed when Ranma and Ryoga turn out to be unable to iceskate.
G: helps Ranma start learning.
E: points out that Ranma-chan still looks stupid when she claims to be training as a girl because she'd look stupid as a guy.
E: gets angry when Azusa pushes her over.
G: is concerned when she realises Ranma is skating wildly and with no ability to control herself, courtesy of the shove she just got.
E: points out that Ranma still hasn't learned how to stand up when she claims she can win no problem after hearing the competition is Martial Arts Figure Skating.
G/B: despite just having seen the Golden Pair in one of their basic training sessions -taking down 100 opponents in 9 seconds flat- refuses a second opportunity to back down.
G: worried for Ranma when she flees in tears after being kissed by Mikado.
E: sarcastically thinks to herself that Mikado would also cry if he knew who he just kissed.

Close Call! The Dance of Death... On Ice!
G: concerned for Ranma when his first attack against Mikado is an apparent suicide strike.
E/B: removes the injured, unconscious Ranma from the ring by dragging him by his pigtail across the ice.
G: tells Azusa that Ranma was the winner in that face off.
B: mocks Ranma for having to hit Mikado 500+ times to win the fight.
B: smacks an obviously upset Ranma in the back of the head and admonishes him for leaving his guard open.
B: shows no sympathy for Ranma.
G: tends to Ranma's injuries.
B: mocks him for getting kissed in the first place- despite the fact, as he quickly proves, she wouldn't have fared any better.
G: doesn't hit him -or even get mad at him- for putting her in a romantic position.
B: baits him about kissing her.
E: gets angry with Azusa when she mocks her and Ranma's entry onto the rink.
G: warns Ranma of Azusa's intended attack.
G: worried for Ranma when Azusa manages to kick him.
G: throws Mikado away when he attempts to kiss her.
G: encourages Ranma to keep fighting.
E: startled when Ranma announces the fact he and she are engaged.

P-Chan Explodes! The Icy Fountain of Love
G/E: wonders if Ranma really meant what he said.
G: realises that she has to concentrate on winning this match first- the proper place to think about such things is after the fight.
B: blames Ranma and gets angry at him when Azusa manuevers them into position for the Golden Pair to use their Couple Cleaver attack.
G: worried for Ranma when they get caught in the Goodbye Whirl.
G: begs him to let go, an act of altruistic self-sacrifice...
B: ...and also proof she didn't research her famous opponents and their well-known techniques before the match.
G: continues trying to persuade him to let go.
B: gets mad when he refuses and counters her attempts to pry herself loose from his grip.
G: concerned for Ranma when he fails to rise after taking the impact.
E/B: insults him repeatedly for this act of self-sacrifice.
-this has the possibility of an Excusable mark because she is, obviously, distraught. It's still a pretty lousy thing to do for someone who has sacrificed himself for her.
B: accuses him of faking unconsciousness when he finally stirs and is unhappy with her insulting him.
G: concerned for Ranma's wellbeing after taking such a blow.
G/B: tries to persuade him to stop fighting.
- while it's obviously motivated by honest concern, she should know by now just how important fighting is to him.
G/B: brings him to his knees by deliberately poking him in an injured spot and begs him to stop.
- as above, motivated by concern. Deliberately inflicting pain to get her point across isn't exactly the most charitable thing to do in such a situation.
E: gets angry with Mikado's smooth talk and is horrified when he kisses her hand.
G: tells Ranma to go and recuperate.
G/E: accepts Ryoga's offer to be her new partner.
E: confused when Ranma-chan drags Ryoga onto the ice and insists on being his partner.
G/B: stupidly involves herself in a final battle between Ranma and Ryoga, demanding to know why they hate each other, only to end up falling into the pool and nearly drowning.

Clash of the Delivery Girls! The Martial Arts Takeout Race
E: exasperated with the Saotomes and their latest fight.
E: unhappy when they bust through the dojo's windows and knock her over...
B: ...and promptly tries to beat up Ranma for this, even though it's at least equally Genma's fault.
E: demands to know what Daikoku means when he refers to Ranma as his heir.
E/B: denies that she is engaged to Ranma.
B: tries to strike him when he corroborates her on this.
G: tells her father not to dare consider selling Ranma.
E: disbelieving when she ends up roped in the Miss Martial Arts Takeout Race to keep her engagement to Ranma.
E/B: insists she's competing solely to win the year's supply of ramen.
B: sarcastically asks why Ranma isn't competiting.
- beyond the fact she should know by now that he dislikes being forced to enter women-related circumstances, making him compete in the race intended to settle an argument between her and Kaori is weighing things unfairly in her favor.
E: not impressed by Kaori coming to the starting line in her wedding dress.
B: complains about Kaori launching the first attack and calls her a cheater, despite the fact it's a martial arts race and an Anything-Goes one at that.
G: refuses to give up, despite Kaori's superior skill.
E: asks who thought up this stupid race/style in the first place while pulling herself out of a pit.
E/B: begs Ranma to save her when Kaori gets her in the Ramen Round Up Noodle Noose.
- while somewhat excusable, given she's being throttled, does anyone else see something wrong in having her ask the *prize* and the whole *purpose* of this match between her and Kaori to intercede on her behalf as being... oh, I don't know, unfair? Especially given that when she asks, he obeys?
G: grateful to Ranma for saving her.
G: saves the ramen bowl before it breaks/spills.
G: spots the floating fishcake and points it out to Ranma.
G: despite her injured leg, manages to tough it out and win the race.

You Really Do Hate Cats!
E: angrily asks why Ranma's new cat is mad at her.
G: is horrified when Ranma screams and races to see what's wrong.
B: upon seeing Ranma lying paralyzed on the floor with the cat on his stomach, immediately accuses him of doing something wrong to the cat.
G: defends Ranma having a weakspot.
E: claims that she isn't defending him when Nabiki teases her about this.
E: impersonated by Sasuke's poor impersonation of her...
G: ...but doesn't hit him for this, nor does she get angry when he activates a trapdoor and sends her plunging into the understage area.
B: boots Ranma in the head so she can yell at Sasuke.
B: berates Ranma when his fear of cats renders him unable to move.
B: refuses to listen to Sasuke when he tries to warn her about there being a tiger behind the door.
G: worried about Ranma when he chases a fish sausage thrown by Sasuke.
G: concerned about Ranma and begs him to come down from the tree.
G: begs Genma to call the old lady who could snap Ranma back to reality and is horrified to learn about her being dead.
G: is worried that Ranma seems to be getting worse and is delighted when Soun reveals he has a plan to snap Ranma back to normal.
E: is less than happy when Soun reveals he has no idea about how to get the catnip to Ranma.
G: comes up with a plan and politely requests a bow and arrow to implement it.
G: in a very polite manner, given the circumstances, asks neko-Ranma to get off her lap.
E/B: throws him into the pool for pressing his face against hers.
E/B: mentally berates and insults him all the way home.

This Ol' Gal's the Leader of the Amazon Tribe!
U: when Ranma sincerely apologises for kissing her and explains that, as a cat, he is completely unaware of what's going on, twists his words and slaps him when he asks her what she's saying.
E: horrified and hurt when she finds Ranma & Shampoo in the bath.
G: when Ranma tries to explain things, apparently isn't mad...
B: ...then splashes him and kicks him into the air.
E: doesn't want to eat Shampoo's ramen.
G: brings hot water for Ranma.
G: asks Shampoo which side she's on after she cheers for Ranma and Cologne.

Behold! The "Chestnuts Roasting on an Open Fire" Technique
G: nails Kuno when he tries to glomp onto Ranma-chan.
G: asks if Ranma is alright.
B: then says she wouldn't have helped Ranma if she'd know it was Kuno attacking her.
B: tells Ranma that next time she'll leave them alone.
E: sarcastically asks who Shampoo's news is happy for.
E: demands that Shampoo explain why she told her and Ranma about the Phoenix Pill and gets upset when Shampoo calls her a pervert girl.
G: is concerned for Ranma when Cologne repeatedly sends her flying.
G: suggests the battered and clearly outmatched Ranma stop fighting.
E/B: angrily decrees that Ranma can move into the Nekohanten when Kasumi asks if she's concerned about the clearly exhausted Ranma.
G: is concerned when she sees just what sort of stuff Cologne is putting Ranma through at the Nekohanten.
B: slaps Ranma across the face when the exhausted girl faints and collapses face-first into her chest.
G: is concerned for Ranma's safety when she refuses to stop trying to master the Kachu Tenshin Amaguriken via its original training method.
E: protests that she doesn't want to be Ranma's escort at the fair.
G: encourages Ranma to loosen up and forget her troubles at the fair.
G: is happy when Ranma does so.
G: comforts a crying boy and offers to help him catch a koi.
E: gets angry when the scoops keep breaking and is insulted when Ranma claims the real problem is her lack of skill.
G: happy that Ranma managed to do so well and catch all the koi.
G: protests when the stall manager issues his bare-hands piranha-catching challenge to Ranma.
G: concerned by Ranma's intent to actually do it, tries to dissuade her so that she won't get hurt.
G: comes to rescue Ranma.
G: soothes Ranma's agonized nerves by pouring cold water over him...
B: ...the cold water from the piranha tank.

Enter Mousse! The Fist of the White Swan
B: insults Ranma for her growing desperation.
B: starts an argument when Ranma retorts to this.
G: is confident that Dr. Tofu can cure Ranma and encourages Ranma to believe the same.
E: tells Ranma bluntly to stand up when the girl is too shocked to listen to Tofu.
G: ecstatic that Ranma has apparently been cured.
E/B: tells Tofu that Kasumi is on the phone, disrupting his attempt to warn Ranma that the Old Man Tokyo point is a one-use effect.
G: asks Ranma if he'd like to grab a burger with her after school.
E: less than impressed when Ranma asks if she's paying.
B: then says that he's paying because it's his fault they were late for school.
E: embarrased and unhappy when the other students tease her and Ranma about this latest quarrel.
E: not happy when Mousse confuses her with Shampoo.
G: points out the real Shampoo to him.
E/B: shoves Shampoo aside when she protests Mousse's attempts to strangle Ranma.
G: tells Mousse to stop it.
E: is insulted when Cologne describes her as always angry and the girl whose house the Saotomes are freeloading at and nothing more.
B: is shocked when Mousse makes her the prize in his and Ranma's duel, whereupon she insists Ranma refuse the terms.
- she didn't mind making Ranma the prize with Kodachi, but she sure doesn't seem happy when the shoe is on the other foot, now does she?
G: tries to warn Ranma about the OMT point only being usable once...
B: ...unthinkingly distracting him in the middle of a fight, so Genma ends up knocking him into the pond.
G: is horrified at this turn of events.
G/B: tries to dissuade Ranma from attending the fight.
G: insists Ranma will show up when Cologne asks if he's not coming.
E: dubs Mousse and Ranma as both being idiots.
G: again, insists Ranma will turn up when Cologne points out how late he is.
E: has a bad feeling about Ranma's plan.
E: is disbelieving when Ranma's "plan" is revealed.
G: is relieved when it appears Ranma's plan to disguise himself has worked.
G: worried when Mousse makes the first real strike after catching Ranma off-guard with the Hen's Egg Bomb attack.
G: confident that Ranma can win in Hand to Hand.
G: is worried when Tofu expresses doubt about this.
G: is concerned for Ranma when Mousse sets the ring afire.
G: reminds Ranma about having learned the Kachu Tenshin Amaguriken.
E/B: comments that she hates Ranma when Nabiki comments on him being popular with girls and boys after Shampoo and the Kunos mob him.

Cool Runnings! The Race of the Snowmen
G: points out to her sisters that they aren't helping when they try haphazardly to cheer Ranma up.
E: is embarrassed by her father's antics.
G: gives Ranma a set of snowshoes and points out that the rules don't disallow them.
B: accuses her of being in the race to win the date with Shampoo.
G: tells her father to stop it when he starts acting like an idiot and interfering with Ranma's attempts to win the race.
U: hypocritically declares she doesn't care about the contest... while competing in it, and ruthlessly thrashing and injuring the other competitors, despite simply needing to bust their snowmen.
U: protests when Ranma appears to be about to choose her, despite the fact that she is doing nothing to try and interfere with Soun and Genma's stupid antics. When she breaks Soun's snowman instead and says she has a dirty mind, slaps her in the face and kicks her down the hill.
B: calls Ranma a fool for falling for Cologne's feigned weakness, something she didn't spot either or, if she did, didn't think to warn Ranma about.
G: worried for Ranma when she gets caught in Cologne's wind vortex.
G: and when she sees she has to fight Cologne on a shattered ice lake.
G: and when Cologne starts using her Fist of the Ice Bear attack.
B: gets angry when Ranma realises Shampoo can help him win and begs for her help.
G/B: helps Ranma activate the Cat Fist, taking an unneccesary amount of satisfaction in doing so.
G: calls Ranma off when she downs Cologne and calms the demented martial artist down.
E: asks if Cologne still wants to fight.
G: happy that Ranma has finally won the Phoenix Pill and can change back into a guy at last.

Danger at the Tendo Dojo!
E: gets bored with Soun & Genma's babble and walks away.
G: calmly points out that she never wanted an arranged marriage with Ranma.
E: can't believe the Dojo Destroyer is serious, claiming she thought such things only happened in the movies.
E/B: protests the idea of working as a team with Ranma, whose skill is superior to hers.
E: offended when Ranma insults her comparatively lesser skill and starts arguing with him.
E: walks away from Soun's latest fit of babbling.
E: bluntly asks why Shampoo has shown up in their gym class.
G: asks what Ranma will need to do to 'pay' for the Instant Nanniichuan.
G: reminds Ranma that the Dojo Destroyer is coming today.
G: tells Ranma she understands when he makes it clear he wants to go on the date...
B: ...then hurls him across the gym to smash head-first into the wall.
B: swears she wouldn't ask for Ranma's help even if her life depended on it.
G: tells her dad that it's okay for Ranma to go after the Instant Nanniichuan and tells Ranma that she hopes he'll have a good time and not to worry about her.
B: then stupidly hurts her hand by showing off, with the Dojo Destroyer coming in maybe an hour or two.
G/B: insists she can handle him alone, despite her injury.
G: repeats her insistence at the dojo...
B: ...and trains solely by breaking bricks.
- now, call me on this one please, but doesn't simply smashing inanimate bricks seem rather inadequate preparation for facing an opponent who makes a living by wandering around and challenging dojos?
G: undaunted by the size of her opponent.
- I don't know the manga, but the anime version of the Dojo Destroyer is, like, 3 times Akane's height and far bulkier. I call her standing her ground without the slightest bit of fear against this goliath quite impressive.
G: refuses to give up, despite her opponent's prowess.
G/B: tells Soun not to interfere, as protecting the dojo is something she'll do on her own.
G: happy that Ranma showed up and saved her just before she almost got KOed.
B: tells Ranma to butt out and that she can handle things... despite the fact she's currently pinned to the wall like an insect and was one second away from being taken down.
G: concerned for Ranma when the Dojo Destroyer slaps him down and then kicks him across the room.
B: complains about the strain involved in performing the Dual Jet Stream Raging Waters attack.
- honestly, this is the move that wins them the match, and she repeatedly calls herself a martial artist, and now she whines about the fact using it involves tugging on her arms?
U: declares she didn't need Ranma's help at all, despite the fact it was only him showing up that saved both her and her family dojo.
U: despite Ranma's protests, makes it apparent she believes Shampoo's claims about the two of them having kissed.
G: sincerely thanks Ranma for his help...
B: ...then flattens him when he chases her insisting that Shampoo was lying.
G: asks Ranma and Genma to come inside before they catch cold when they are sitting in the pond in the rain.

Ranma Trains on Mt. Terror
G: points out that Ryoga's challenge letter was scheduled for that day.
E/B: protests that she was about to go and practise when Kasumi asks her to go and get noodles for that night's dinner.
E: gets exasperated with Soun and Genma's antics.
B: blames Ranma for starting his latest fight with Ryoga, despite the fact she read a challenge letter given a week ago and has seen Ryoga start every fight she's witnessed prior.
G/B: pushes Ranma into the pond and tells him he shouldn't bully Ryoga.
B: badmouths Ranma to Ryoga.
G: warns Ryoga that Ranma has gotten stronger and tells him how he got stronger.
B: claims that Ranma is the one who always starts the fights between him and Ryoga.
B: with the other Tendos, eats all of the sukiyaki at dinner while Ranma and Genma are talking and is unrepentant about having done this.
E: is less than happy about having been drafted into coming with the Saotomes on their training trip.
U: tries to stab Ranma in the face for an innocuous comment.
- before anyone accuses me of making this out worse than it is, let me say that I have seen the manga version of this scene via the scanlation. There, Akane merely brandishes the knife in a threatening manner. Here, she deliberately thrusts it at Ranma's face -roughly at his eyes- and it's only him leaning back and snaring it between his fingers that stops its momentum. And this simply for saying that he and Genma were hungry enough that they could eat pig slop- it wasn't a comment on her cooking in the least, and he was unaware of how lousy it was at the time.
U: hypocritically deems Ranma as an insensitive, ungrateful jerk for being unable to stomach food she herself is unable to swallow.
G: is upset when she realises she just KOed Ryoga.
G/B: tries to fix the curry by adding fresh ingredients.
- she does have good intentions here. On the other hand, seeing as how she spoiled it in the first place by putting weird junk in it, is it really likely that adding more weird junk will fix it? Better to throw it out and start again.
G: realises from Ryoga's physical spasms it's still lousy.
U: happily and willingly believes Ryoga when he lies and claims it tastes delicious.
U: gets angry when Ranma tries some and promptly asks Ryoga if his sense of taste is also defective, telling him that his opinion was never asked for.
B: didn't taste this 'improved' batch, despite how bad the last one turned out.
B: gets angry when Ranma begs her to try it.
G: tells Ryoga that she's glad he likes her cooking but she doesn't need him to defend her.
G: concerned for Ryoga when Cologne KOs him.
U: throws a tantrum like a spoiled brat and runs off after Cologne & Ryoga, abandoning her honest fiance for the company of the comparative stranger who'll placate her with lies.
G: worried what Ryoga mastering the Bakusai Tenketsu will mean for Ranma.

The Breaking Point!? Ryoga's Great Revenge
G: concerned for Ryoga after the day's training ends and tends to the battered boy.
G/B: asks Cologne to go easier on Ryoga.
- while motivated by basic concern, interfering with another martial artist's training regime -unless it's obviously not going to turn out well, like Ranma's Cat Fu training under Genma- is not done.
G: worried for Ranma when it appears Ryoga has finally mastered the Bakusai Tenketsu.
G: wonders how Ranma is doing and is concerned about him...
B: ...but hasn't even checked on him for the last six days.
E/U: despite tasting her food and finding it repulsive, has absolutely no qualms about dishing the disgusting slop up to Ryoga.
B: claims she doesn't want Ranma, despite having just shot down Cologne's suggestion of dumping Ranma and getting together with Ryoga.
E: angry about being kidnapped in her sleep.
G: concerned for Ryoga when it appears he's been set up to lose.
E: points out that all Ranma has been practising is evasion.
E: angrily tells Ranma not to lose and points out she's the prize.
U: kicks Ranma, who is trying to save her from falling, in the face and into the path of an ostensibly deadly Ryoga.
E: is less than impressed with the "Fast Break" technique.
G: is worried when Ryoga blows himself and Ranma into the air.
G: is worried for Ranma when the cliff gives way and plunges him into the river below.

The Abduction of Akane!
G: pushes Kasumi to safety when Mousse attacks.
E: is confused by Mousse's demands and insulted that he confused her and her stuffed pig.
E: gets angry with Ranma and Genma when they talk as though she really was kidnapped, gets angry when Ranma-chan keeps this up at the fair and finally throws her into the ring for one insult too many.
E: knees Mousse in the face and calls him a moron for confusing her and her stuffed pig.
G: horrified when she realises "Mu-Mu-Chan" is trying to kill Ranma.
E: slaps Mousse in a panic when he suddenly dangles in front of her upside down.

Ranma vs. Mousse! To Lose Is To Win
G: frees herself while Ranma and the Chinese teens are distracted.
E: complains about having been dragged into this fight.
G/B: throws her shoe at Mousse, hitting him in the face and making him lose his grip on the Yahzniichuan hose.
G: kicks the last bucket of Jusenkyo water over Mousse, thus ensuring he can't use it against Ranma.
E: mentally comments on how pathetic Mousse looks.
- for a start, he does look pathetic. Secondly, given all that he's put her through -not just in the past 24 hours, but also since their first meeting- she has a valid right to be angry with him.
G: comforts him and tells him she'll help him with Shampoo.
B: blindsides Ranma with a table when she hears him angrily complaining to a duck he thinks is her, demanding to know why she'd ever be grateful to him.
B: tells Ranma to let Mousse win when she arranges the challenge and alerts Shampoo to it.
- Ranma takes martial arts very seriously, and throwing a fight goes against his grain.
B: tries to persuade Ranma before the fight that he'll simply be pretending to lose.
- as though that makes things any better.
B: tells him not to make it too obvious the fight is fixed.
B: slaps him with a fan when he disobeys her.
B: gets angry at Shampoo for also interfering.
G/B: horrified at how far Shampoo goes.
- the mark for this depends on whether she's sympathetic to Mousse or simply upset about her own plans being wrecked.
G/B: tells Ranma to stop picking on Mousse and that he's obviously had enough.
- good that she's concerned for Mousse... as for Ranma picking on Mousse, Akane was the one who arranged this thing in the first place.
G: finally realises how wrong asking Ranma to throw the fight was.
G: asks in concern where Mousse is when Ranma wins the fight.
G/E: happy that Mousse appears to have gotten through to Shampoo.

Enter Happosai, the Lustful Lecher!
G: tries to comfort Happosai when he starts crying over the fact she doesn't recognize him.
E: is insulted when the old pervert belittles her bust size.
B/U: dubs Happosai as being perfectly harmless and that Ranma is overreacting in his complaints about the disgusting little freak.
- this, despite the fact that when she first meets him he's groping her classmates, and the tales her father told her. As Ranma complains, so long as he isn't groping her, she doesn't seem to mind him.
E: sticks her tongue out at Shampoo when the latter leaves.
G: cautions Ranma about fighting Happosai, reminding him that he trained their fathers.
G: upset with Happosai's actions during the duel, demanding to know if he considers this a duel.
U: suggests Ranma actually give the old pervert what he wants and wear the bra.
G: calls encouragement to Ranma.
G: worried for Ranma when Happosai sends him flying.
G: concerned for Ranma's well being when he barely escapes the old freak's aura blast attack.

Assault on the Girls' Locker Room
G: devises a plan to try and stop Happosai's raids of ther school.
E: accidentally stands on Ryoga...
B: ...but doesn't seem too concerned about this.
G: thanks Ryoga for the present, which she gracefully accepts.
G: directs the other girls in getting ready to fight off Happosai.
G: doesn't particularly want to do this, but acknowledges it's the only way to teach Happosai a lesson.
G: horrified when P-chan suddenly faints with a nosebleed.
E: angrily hits Ranma when he waltzes into the changing room -filled with half-naked girls- and slaps her pet.
B: then continues chasing him when he flees, determined to keep on pounding him.
E/B: accuses Ranma of teaming up with Happosai.
- it does look suspicious... but then again, surely she should remember just how much the old freak disgusts him.
B: takes the violence up a notch by outfitting all of the girls with weaponry.
G: tries to calm the girls down when they start panicing at the rain of creepy-crawlies.
B: unsuccessfully attacks Ranma-chan when she spots her, demanding she fight fair.
- honestly, the style is Anything-Goes. "Fighting fair" shouldn't even be in her or Ranma's vocabulary.
E: furiously splashes Ranma-chan and Ryoga when she sees the former tricking the latter.
U: truly believes Ranma is after the underwear... and promptly hands over her classmate's lingerie to him.
G: admits she can't stop him...
B: ...then begs him that this be his last perversion.
U: declares that he was always sick in his body, but now he's clearly also sick in his mind as well.
G/B: claims she doesn't regret the time they spent together and runs off crying.
G: appears to believe him when he tells her about the Japanese Nanniichuan...
B: ...but was really just getting him to let his guard down and promptly hit him, declaring him a liar.
G/B: willing to believe the best of Ryoga's motives when she hears that he was the one who gave Ranma the map to the Japanese Nanniichuan.
G: tries to stop the two fighting.
U: finally believes that Ranma was telling the truth -though she never apologises for believing the worst of him nor is she remorseful of this fact- then immediately recants when she hears that the water is from the watermain.

Kuno's House of Gadgets! Guests Check In, But They Don't Check Out
G: concerned about the fact she's trespassing on someone else's property.
G: politely announces her presence.
E: not happy when she realises she's wandered into the Kuno house.
G: tries to reason with Kodachi instead of fighting back.
G: continues not to attack until she tries to dispatch the relatively helpless P-chan and Mu-Mu-Chan, whereupon she comes to their defence.
G: is concerned for Ranma when she finds him in the labyrinth, having fallen in via a pit trap.
E: kicks Sasuke in the face.
G: worried about Ranma and searches the Kuno house for him.
G: treats Kuno politely when she finds her way into the bathroom and doesn't hit him for his stupidity, not even when he hurts P-chan.
E: asks herself why she came here in the first place.

Goodbye Girl-Type
B: hits Ranma and yells at him for disrupting her training when he crash-lands on top of her training bricks courtesy of Happosai.
E: embarrassed by the advice her family offers when she follows Ranma to the Nekohanten.
G: joins the hunt for the last urn.
G: concerned for Ranma when Cologne smashes him into the kitchen.
G: figures out the riddle of the final urn.
G: leads them to the trail that leads to the Three Boulder Brothers.
E: asks Shampoo in return why the Chinese Girl came along.
B: gets jealous when Ranma saves Shampoo from a falling boulder and denies this, despite being willing to leave because of it.
G: declares her willingness to fight against Happosai.
G: is happy when Ranma finally makes it to the empty spring...
E: ...and is not so happy when Shampoo nearly pushes her over shoving her way to the setting hole.
E: disbeliving when Ryoga tells her she can go home now.
G: happy for Ranma when it appears he actually has been cured.

It's a Fine Line Between Pleasure and Pain
B: hits Ranma in the head with a fire extinguisher for warning Kuno off her cookies.
B: insists that he eat one, despite the fact she admits she hasn't tried one herself.
B: screams at him and threatens him when he fails to recognize the shape of her cookies.
E: demands to know why Kodachi has shown up. Likewise, demands her cookies back.
B: upset with the fact Ranma didn't eat a cookie before Kodachi stole them.
B: despite the fact she never tasted one, gets upset when Ranma protests they would have made him sick.
G/B: happily decrees that he can try one now after retrieving them.
B: gets angry when the clearly queasy-looking Ranma politely refuses them, explaining that he feels sick.
E: is horrified when Happosai eats them.
B: gets mad at Happosai when he starts crying and declares they weren't fit for human consumption, thus validating Ranma's protests.
B: angrily asks if he'd rather have had the sleeping potion-laced cookies Kodachi made.
B: on the way home, fumes about Ranma "embarrassing" her by refusing to eat her vile cookies and swears to make him eat some.
G: politely and apologetically asks Kasumi to help her with her baking, thus acknowledging she has problems with cooking...
B: ...but not that Ranma was in the right to avoid it. Vows that he will be sorry for not eating the first batch.
B: carries on her usual antics, ignoring Kasumi's gentle attempts to advise her.
G: actually tries tasting her own creations...
B: ...but keeps on putting in weird junk not called for by the recipe, despite the fact that the number of bad batches she's made should make it obvious not to do this.
B: tells an extremely one-sided version of the affair to her friends, telling them that Ranma wouldn't eat her food despite how hard she worked on it but not telling them that she screwed up horribly every time.
U: vows to force him to eat her cookies and say he likes them even if it kills him.
G: buys some new recipe books.
E/B: affronted when she sees Kodachi blackmailing Ranma into eating her cookies.
B: has clearly learned nothing from either her past experiments or these new recipe books, continuing to make the same mistakes.
B: demands that Ranma eat this latest batch, which she hasn't dared to try.
B: hypocritically denounces Kodachi for continuing to give Ranma food.
B: chases him from the house when he leaves on his own business, badgering him to eat her cookies.
E: is affronted when Ranma-chan tells her to go hom.
E/B: bluntly suggests Kodachi get medical help.
B: believes the doctored photo Kodachi gives her and promptly blindsides him in the bathroom.
B: calls Ranma a playboy and runs off without giving him the chance to explain.
B: upset to the point of tears that Ranma never once tried her cookies, despite the fact that she was never able to stomach them either.
U: doesn't even consider apologising to Ranma when he finally explains about having been blackmailed, even giving her proof in the form of the photographic negatives.
U: is satisfied when Ranma finally succumbs to her emotional blackmail and eats her latest batch of crap, though nowhere near as satisfied as she should have been given how she's been acting. Completely unremorseful when Ranma ends up with agonizing stomach pains for his generosity and blames the recipe, thus showing she has learned absolutely nothing from this whole fiasco.

S.O.S.! The Wrath of Happosai
G: tries to cheer Soun and Genma up when they get upset about the fact Happosai's crimes are coming back to haunt them.
E: asks if Soun and Genma are mad when they try to flee town after Happosai gets angry.
G: is insulted and affronted when their efforts to stop Happosai's vindictiveness consists solely of grovelling to him.
G: brings Ranma food when he gets kicked out of the dojo.
B: suggests he actually give in to Happosai.
G: agrees to help Ranma with his plan.
E: throws Happosai out of the window for fondling her while she was sewing a patch onto his clothes.
E: doubtful about whether or not Ranma's plan will work.
B: gets angry with Happosai when he confuses her dog design for a pig.
- this is just petty, especially given his compliments on her sewing skills and his genuine admiration of it.
B: hits Ranma-chan and tells her she won't help her again when she complains about how hard Akane's patch is to remove given how crude it looks.
G: tries to give her hot water so she can fight Happosai.
G: calls Soun pathetic for his grovelling.
G: tries to rouse the waste of a man when Happosai collapses from exhaustion.

Kissing is Such Sweet Sorrow! The Taking of Akane's Lips
E: doesn't want to take part in the school play.
E/B: unsuccessfully attacks Ranma when his comment, upon hearing her suggestions as to the play is to tell her to go for it and that she was born for the role.
G/B: immediately switches stances on the affair when she hears the role is Juliet.
E: instinctively punches Kuno in the eye for startling her by appearing behind her from nowhere.
E: horrified when Happosai auditions for the role of Romeo.
G: takes Ranma's sarcastic compliments seriously and happily.
E: vows never to forgive Ranma, Kuno & Happosai if they wreck the play.
E: horrified when she finds out Sasuke has been part of the balcony all along.
G: grateful to Ranma when he saves her from the amorous ninja.
E: gets irked when it turns out Ranma hasn't studied the role.
E: gets embarrassed and points out that it would just be part of the play if the two of them kissed.
E: gets irritated when Ranma refuses to kiss her.
G: points out that if he doesn't do it, she'll have to kiss one of the other three (Kuno, Happosai, Sasuke).
G: dispatches the idiot trio when they make a nuisance of themselves.
E: gets upset about the play being ruined by their antics.
G: remembers her childhood dream and refuses to give up.
G: actually tries to accept Kuno as Romeo...
E: ...then shoves him away.
G: saves Ranma-chan from getting kissed by Kuno.
E: irked at Ranma-chan stealing her role and the redhead's suggestions about her and Kuno.
E: horrified when Ranma-chan appears to kiss Kuno and storms off stage.
B: tells Ranma-chan she's a pervert and suggests she go and kiss Kuno again.
B: refuses to listen or believe Ranma-chan when she points out she used tape and it doesn't count.
G: encourages Ranma to kiss her in the final scene...
B: ...then uses tape on him.
E: teases him about kissing without the tape.
G: tells her sisters it's kinder to let the fainted Ranma sleep.

Bathhouse Battle! We're in Some Hot Water Now
B: hits Ranma with a bucket for saying he doesn't want to peep on her.
- a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation if ever I saw one.
G: suspicious of Nabiki's intentions/motivations.
G: tells Happosai not to act like a five year old.
G: then throws him over to the men's side, burying him in the high wall.
U: happily leaves Ranma, her own fiance, to the 'tender mercies' of the other female bathers, despite the fact he got into this situation trying to keep her safe and the lecherous runt under control.
B: insults Ranma's efforts to counter Happosai.
G: lures the old freak out of hiding so Ranma can deal with him.
U: accusses Ranma of actually encouraging the old loon.
U: then, hypocritically, when Ranma is unwilling to go to a bathhouse with Happosai again, acknowledges all of the good Ranma did in his efforts to keep Happosai restrained in an attempt to coerce him to repeat the nightmarish experience again.
G: has spare swimsuits so as to foil Happosai.
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Postby FriendlyEL » Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:35 pm

First off, as far as doing any Rival GBU lists for the anime, I think it would be good to start with ones that were already finished for the manga. That means Happosai would be your only real option at this point.

E/B: sticks her tongue out at Shampoo when the latter leaves, despite the fact Shampoo's done nothing but say hello and hug the boy she loves.

Well, I'd say that's an E. No, Shampoo didn't do anything to her then, but she did do all sorts of nasty things to her beforehand like try to erase her memory, try to kill her, feed her pet pig in a pretty sick joke and constantly make fun of her ("Pervert girl like girl type Ranma?"). She has every reason to find the mere presence of her as irritating.

B: gets mad at Happosai when he starts crying and declares they weren't fit for human consumption, thus validating Ranma's protests.

This is an E in my opinion but more because she has every reason to be mad at Happosai. How would you like it if someone just randomly grabbed something you just made without permission, gulped it all down then cried about how horrible it was? Whether it shows Ranma was right or not, she has every right to be razzled by this random jerkyness.
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Postby SpaceKnight of Chaos » Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:41 pm

Okay, I'll change that first one. But the second one... Acey gave that same thing a "Bad" in the manga-version of the Akane GBU list, just so you know.

Yeah, I know the rival lists for the manga still haven't been done. Do you want me to do the anime ones or not though? That's what I'm asking.
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Postby bissek » Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:43 pm

Manga Shampoo (appears in 25 volumes):
Good: 111
Bad: 160
Ugly: 49

Best moment: Volume 27 (+7)
Worst moment: Volume 4 (13 Uglies)

Ratios:
Good: 34.69%
Bad: 50%
Ugly: 15.31%

Actions/Vol:
4.44 G/Vol
6.4 B/Vol
1.96 U/Vol

VwU: 15
Probability of Ugliness: 60%
Average number of Uglies when being Ugly: 3.27
Above, not counting worst moment: 2.57

In order to get a neutral character, you would need one Ugly to equal -1 Bads.

Anime Shampoo: (appears in 39 episodes):
Good: 184
Bad: 70
Ugly: 20

Best moment: Two Too Violent Girls! Ling-Ling & Lung-Lung! (+11)
Worst Moment: Sneeze Me, Squeeze Me, Please Me! Shampoo's Recipe for Disaster (6 Uglies)

Ratios:
Good: 67.15%
Bad: 25.55%
Ugly: 7.3%

Actions/episode:
4.72 G/Ep
1.79 B/Ep
.51 U/Ep

Episodes with Uglies: 10
Probability of Ugliness: 25.64%
Average number of Uglies when being Ugly: 2
Above, not counting worst moment: 1.56

In order to get a neutral character, you would need one Ugly to equal 5.7 Bads.

Manga Ukyo (Appears in 17 volumes):
Totals:
Good: 106
Bad: 63
Ugly: 6

Best moment: Volume 15 (+6)
Worst moment: N/A (Six-way tie between vols 9, 13, 17, 25, 35 and 36)

Ratios:
Good: 60.57%
Bad: 36%
Ugly: 3.43%

Actions/Vol
6.24 G/Vol
3.71 B/Vol
0.35 U/Vol

VwU: 6
Probability of Ugliness: 35.29%
Average number of Uglies committed when being Ugly: 1
Above, not counting worst moment: 1

In order for a neutral character, you would need one Ugly to equal 7.16 Bads

Anime Ukyo (appears in 26 episodes)
Good: 173
Bad: 45
Ugly: 10

Best moment: Ukyo's Secret Sauce, Part 1 (+13)
Worst moment: Ranma the Lady-Killer (4 Uglies)

Ratios:
Good: 75.88%
Bad: 19.74%
Ugly: 4.39%

Actions/Episode:
6.65 G/Ep
1.73 B/Ep
.38 U/Ep

Ep w/U: 4
Probablity of Ugliness: 15.38%
Average number of Uglies committed when being Ugly: 2.5
Above, not counting worst moment: 2

In order for a neutral character, you would need one Ugly to equal 12.8 Bads

Manga Kodachi (appears in 12 volumes)
Good: 25
Bad: 51
Ugly: 22

Best moment: Volume 35 (-2)
Worst moment: Volume 9 (5 Uglies)

Ratios:
Good: 25.51%
Bad: 52.04%
Ugly: 22.45%

Actions/Vol:
2.08 G/Vol
4.25 B/Vol
1.83 U/Vol

VwU: 11
Probability of Ugliness: 91.67%
Average number of Uglies when being Ugly: 2
Above, not counting worst moment: 1.7

In order to get a neutral character, you would need one Ugly to equal -1.18 Bads.

Anime Kodachi (appears in 21 episodes)
Good: 112
Bad: 82
Ugly: 28

Best moment: Dear Daddy... Love, Kodachi! (+17)
Worst moment: The Kuno Sibling Scandal (6 Uglies)

Ratios:
Good: 50.45%
Bad: 36.94%
Ugly: 12.61%

Actions/Ep
5.33 G/Ep
3.9 B/Ep
1.33 U/Ep

Ep w/U: 9
Probability of Ugliness: 42.86%
Average number of Uglies when being Ugly: 3.11
Above, not counting worst moment: 2.75

In order to get a neutral character, one Ugly must be equal to 1.07 Bads.

Manga Akane (appears in 38 volumes):
Totals:
Good: 476
Bad: 388
Ugly: 47

Best moment: Volume 26 (+16)
Worst moment: Volume 32 (10 Uglies)

Ratios:
Good: 52.25%
Bad: 42.59%
Ugly: 5.16%

Actions/Vol:
12.53 G/Vol
10.21 B/Vol
1.24 U/Vol

VwU: 19
Probability of Ugliness: 50%
Average number of Uglies when being Ugly: 2.47
Above, not counting worst moment: 2.06

In order to get a neutral character, you would need one Ugly to equal 1.85 Bads.

Anime Akane (Appears in 40 episodes as of Season 2)
Good: 268
Bad: 195
Ugly: 38

Best moment: True Confessions! A Girl's Hair is Her Life! (+10)
Worst moment: Ranma Trains on Mt Terror (5 Uglies)

Ratios:
Good: 53.49%
Bad: 38.92%
Ugly: 7.58%

Actions/Ep
6.7 G/Ep
4.88 B/Ep
.95 U/Ep

Ep w/U: 18
Probability of Ugliness: 45%
Average number of Uglies when being Ugly: 2.11
Above, not counting worst moment: 1.94

In order to get a neutral character, you would need one Ugly to equal 1.92 Bads.

A-Akane has logged more appearances in two seasons than any other girl has in the entire series (Something that definitively proves who the director thinks the female lead is supposed to be). She has also logged more Uglies in two seasons than any other girl has in the entire series. The likelihood of her being Ugly has gone down, but she remains at the top of that statistic. She also remains at the least Ugly while being Ugly, but that margin is narrowing.
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Postby FriendlyEL » Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:44 pm

I'd be more than happy for you to do the ones for the Rivals. :D

Okay, I'll change that first one. But the second one... Acey gave that same thing a "Bad" in the manga-version of the Akane GBU list, just so you know.

I know Acey did, I'm just giving my personal opinion on that matter.
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Postby Tovath » Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:28 pm

SpaceKnight of Chaos wrote:She's not being asked not to hit people ever, just not to strike in anger. Defending herself from attackers is perfectly valid, Kasumi is just asking her to rein in her temper and stop pounding on people who make her mad. Given that she just KOed her own father in a rage, Kasumi has every right to ask her to try and control herself better.


And how is she suppose to keep her calm and not strike in anger when a bunch of boys attack her all yelling that they love her. Shesh that would make me lose my temper and I don't have a short temper
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Postby Spokavriel » Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:48 pm

It's just that knowing of Akane's Temper and giving no help no advice on how to handle it then forcing a promise which the little sister has no skills to make it so she can keep it. You're in the middle of a fight do you stop hitting with enemies still attacking because you got pissed or continue striking in anger. I doubt an enemy would back off from shouting out "Now I'm pissed I have to stop!" You might as well ask the wind to promise to stop blowing if it gets cold.
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Postby SpaceKnight of Chaos » Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:16 pm

I don't know if I'm being thick or you two are being pedantic. Kasumi is not asking Akane not to accept challenges or to take it easy on people who are fighting with her. She's asking Akane not to immediately lash out with physical violence at someone who makes her upset. If someone tries to punch her, then she's perfectly fine to hit back. Twisting an arm out of its socket or breaking a jaw because someone mouthed off to her is what Kasumi's asking her to stop doing.
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Postby Spokavriel » Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:19 pm

She is asking Akane to not act in anger in the only way she has ever vented her anger.

Even if her usual target in doing so is cinder blocks.

Edit: Think about her charge to the Hentai horde she starts out by proclaiming her hatred of boys stoking her anger towards the males at school before running in and in anger attacking all those waiting to attack her.
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Postby SpaceKnight of Chaos » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:18 pm

Okay, I'm currently tallying the marks of season 3's 15th episode, "Back to the Happosai", and there was just something I wanted to know before I reached it. In the final episode for the season, "Ranma Goes Back to Jusenkyo At Last", Akane's only appearances are as part of Ranma's dream- first as ten years in the future, where she's married to Ryoga and has triplet sons, and then at the end, where a now-uncursed Ranma & Genma come to the Tendo House to find it already hosting not only cursed versions of themselves but also Happosai. Given these are her only appearances, do I need to mark her behavior? I haven't been marking her actions when she appears in the daydreams of various characters, so I figure this would come under the same heading.
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