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Re: zero gravity

Postby Spokavriel » Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:23 am

There's also the launch yourself at your opponent and let your hits impacting them redirect you back out of striking distance style. But without gravity all your chances to do anything to effect your hit has to be done while pushing off of the surface in hopes that it isn't too telegraphed, or your opponent has nothing to anchor with to dodge if it is telegraphed.
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Re: zero gravity

Postby Ellen Kuhfeld » Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:59 am

Spokavriel wrote: I think someone has micro gravity confused with artificial gravity. Simplest example of micro gravity in action is easy to demonstrate. Find a place where there's no breeze have a roll of tape. Pull off at least 5 inches and hold it as close to the end as you can then move your hand towards it. Long before you make contact with the hand not holding it the tape will visibly move towards your hand.

That's static electricity, not gravity. If you were in the dark, and completely dark-adapted, you'd probably see sparks from the place the tape was pulling off the roll.
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Re: zero gravity

Postby Wyrd » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:45 pm

To further compicate the matter, since we still have received no clarification from the original poster on exactly what they are looking for, consider super-human combat such as in Ranma. Acceleration takes a moment, so Ranma might be able to hit a dozen times with the Amaguriken before he was pushed too far away from his opponent, but otherwise it would be pretty useless in a fight in zero-g unless he was holding onto his opponent to keep him in range.

Do the ki-firing techniques, such as the moko takabisha or shi shi hokodan, have any recoil? If no, then they are great attacks because you don't have to worry about them altering your trajectory. If yes, then they might be more useful as maneuvering blasts than attacks.

In Dragonball(the original series) Goku fights an opponent, Tien, who has mastered a levitation technique in a tournament match much like Rhythmic Gymnastics in that if either opponent touched the ground they were disqualified. Tien, while floating, started a move that would destroy the arena, leaving Goku nowhere to stand. Goku responded by figuring out how to fire a low level kamehameha from his feet so he could fly as well. Most flight in Dragonball and the later versions is based on this technique, as it allows for greater speed and Tien's technique was a 'secret technique' that he refused to teach anyone. This is why the characters leave trails of energy behind them when flying.

I could see Ranma developing such a technique pretty rapidly as a way of compensating for the problems of zero-g, and Ryouga copying him once observing it in use. Interesting descriptions could really spice this up, with Ranma firing out a steady stream of energy from his shoulders to compensate for the recoil of his punches, creating the appearance of blue wings.
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Re: zero gravity

Postby Spokavriel » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:11 pm

You can do the same experiment with thread. Static happens but not every time. There is gravity exerted by all masses.
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Re: zero gravity

Postby Wyrd » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:25 pm

Spokavriel wrote: You can do the same experiment with thread. Static happens but not every time. There is gravity exerted by all masses.


Your own natural bioelectric field, generated by all living things, means that you always have a minor static charge. Not enough to arc most of the time, though I have been shocked by static before where the arc of the discharge was clearly visible. I really don't feel like pulling up the equations necessary to show you exactly how much gravitational force you exert on the objects around you, but it is infinitesimal in comparison to the force exerted by the planet. This is why objects of different mass appear to fall at the same rate, even though this is not strictly true. The difference in the effects of the gravity of the falling objects, even if one is one pound and the other is one ton, is so tiny compared to the gravitational force the Earth is exerting on both of those objects, that over the course of the short fall to the ground there will not be a measurable difference in acceleration.

For the purposes of dealing with things on a planet, it is just easier to ignore the other half of the equation as inconsequential. Where it becomes important is in micro gravity and in the pull between astronomical objects.
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Re: zero gravity

Postby Spokavriel » Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:05 pm

If you want to do the test without "Bioelectric" you can watch the same phenomena using a thread and a cinder block. As they near eachother you will see the thread move toward the mass before they come in contact.
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Re: zero gravity

Postby Ellen Kuhfeld » Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:13 pm

Spokavriel wrote: If you want to do the test without "Bioelectric" you can watch the same phenomena using a thread and a cinder block. As they near eachother you will see the thread move toward the mass before they come in contact.

If both you and the block are grounded really well, to the same ground, and there's enough humidity in the air that the string conducts even a tiny bit, you will not get this attraction. On the other hand, if you are wearing rubber soles and heels, you will probably have some slight electrical charge, and there will be attraction.
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