An odd idea. Kasumi mirrors Makoto

[Spokavriel]

Has anyone seen the stories where Ranma is Shinji in another reality and ends up mentally swapping realities while asleep?

I was wondering if something could be done like that for Kasumi Tendo and Makoto Kino. Only having them as not just linked that way but the same person at birth with different circumstances growing up.

Think about it. Kasumi was learning Martial Arts and formed her relationship with Dr Tofu before her mother died.

What if in the Kino reality most of the family were escorting Mom to a hospital in the states to try other alternatives to help her medical condition and all 4 of Makoto's immediate family died in the crash. That would lead to her having to Sell the Dojo because she couldn't afford funeral arrangements for all of them and there wouldn't be anyone to teach there any more.

Her Sempai could be Dr Tofu. And the reason for her staying behind could be that she's got a test she can't miss in school. Possibly even with arrangements to fly out to join up with her family after it.

Kasumi ended up replacing her mother and giving up martial arts. She finished school and the Senshi situations never came to pass in her reality. But in Makoto's she got bounced around from school to school as she was just surviving name short of being a ronin.

Also I'd like to borrow the idea of a time offset between worlds so that its Post Failed Wedding Kasumi that is synchronized with pre-Jubaan school Makoto.

I was even thinking it might be fun to create middle names allowing one characters name to be an anagram of the others.

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Name            Letters in order         Not used in other name
Kasumi Tendo      a d e i k m n o s t u      d e s u
Makoto Kino        a i k k m n o o o t        k o o

Any middle name suggestions? Beyond using the letters from the other name all the others should match in both middles.

The reasoning behind Kasumi's being post failed wedding is because I'd like to see what happens if Ranma finally starts solving Genma's problems on his honor. Kasumi wasn't involved much in Ranma events outside of the Cat Fist aspects at her home. So if cannon is kept its a good point to build from. Also having her reactions as she lives through Makoto's Senshi business in the other reality could also be fun but would be difficult to really present with Ranma cannon events still taking place at the same time.

[TerraEpon]

I love it. I really do.

[Spokavriel]

Thank you. But as you can see its not a full idea.

What if in Kasumi's World all of the Moon Kingdom history happened too and the Moon Cats ended up in the Neko-ken training on accident? So the Senshi never awakened. But also the Dark Kingdom didn't break out because the power from the planetary bindings is still fully focused on Queen Serenity's final spell.

My theory is sustaining the Moon Cats storage access used just enough power to let the Negaverse wake up earlier by a few years (out of a few millenia) in Makoto's world. Here the Moon Cats perished so that energy wasn't used. But Ranma could end up with access to their stuff space should he ever learn hidden weapons.

Not much point to doing that unless I'm going to have something happen in Kasumi's world. Say her accidentally finding the analogs of all the Senshi. Some of them even being perfectly identical except older like Ami Mizuno, Toudai medical program student. and others with Anagram names. But all of them clearly the Senshi she knows in the world she sees in her dreams.

What happens when the Negaverse start operations in Kasumi's world? They are going to wake up eventually.

I wonder how Ranma will react to being haunted by 2 moon cat advisers once the Negaverse shows up?

Will the Negaverse get an easier time on things since Tokyo clearly has so many more people with high Ki available? Or will the Martial Artists bury the Dark Kingdom to keep Kasumi from frowning?

Edit: A little reasoning behind the whole energy thing and the years miss-match it causes.

The Moon Cats clearly weren't doing much more than looking for the girls before the start of Sailor V. But they had used some of their energy in establishing places to look and creating their central command post. Not to mention ways to communicate. But if they die before diverting any of that energy then it can last longer.

Then again they might not have even given any idea to the source of the power they were diverting and didn't exactly use it sparingly. If its too much to ask of the audience please tell me. That's part of why this is in Research and not a full blown idea. Also anyone who wants to take it up let me know so I can read it when you have something.

What works and what is too much to ask. Also any suggestions would also be appreciated.

[Spokavriel]

Differences between worlds.
Kasumi's world
The Dark Kingdom hasn't been released yet and the Moon Cats are dead. All the Senshi are currently right around age 20 for the Inners, 21 for Outers and Mamoru's analog should be what 27 working for his degree in law?

Makoto's World
The Kino Dojo (Tendo Dojo analog) has been sold and no longer exists. There is No Saotome family and so none of the China aspects of Ranma 1/2 are around in this world. Although other native Nerima aspects could still come into play.

Questionable area.
Would Hotaru still exist in Kasumi's world? Or would Pluto have had to do something about her seeing how her Father's life wouldn't really fit the time scale. Its one point that would need allot of reworking. And reasons for differences.

Question on the other side.
Should Makoto's world have a Happosai? And if it does would he have been in place to create Miss Hinako or Pantyhose Taro? If the Musk Prince has his accident at Jusenkyo he wouldn't come into play until long after Galaxia but would Musk or Happosai get confused for Youma seeing how the predominant majority are female forms?

[Cheb]

to be an anagram of the others.

Sorry, but Japanese names consist of different letters. That won't work.
Te-n-do (3 letters) Ka-su-mi (again 3 letters)
Ki-no (2 letters) Ma-ko-to (3 letters)
As you can see, *none* of the letters in their names match.
They always write anagrams and the like in this system.

Here the Moon Cats perished

These aren't your normal cats. These are much tougher, with psychic powers. They'd just use telepathy on Ranma turning the whole story onto different path.

Then again they might not have even given any idea to the source of the power they were diverting and didn't exactly use it sparingly.

As I understand, in the manga it's the remains of the old Moon kingdom systems. Plus the cats themselves are frigging powerful. Being experienced mages, they coulda just created stuff out of thin air like the Dark generals do in the anime. The henshin pens and stuff were training equipment to aid the Senshi until they find their true power and be able to transform at will. Thus, the henshin items could have also been created by the cats.

In the anime it's never, ever gets explained.

All the Senshi are currently right around age 20 for the Inners

ALL of the enemies must be moved onto the later dates. While Black Moon could never exist in Kasumi's world this still leaves the extra-dimensional devourer of worlds, Nehelenia and Galaxia.

Would Hotaru still exist in Kasumi's world? Or would Pluto have had to do something about her seeing seeing how her Father's life wouldn't really fit the time scale

AFAIK, Pluto didn't know it was Hotaru's father. She isn't as omniscient as the fanon paints her.

Should Makoto's world have a Happosai?

So there would be two of them? God forbid, even one Happosai is too many for the Multiverse!

would Musk or Happosai get confused for Youma seeing how the predominant majority are female forms?

Musk unlikely, Happousai quite probably. He isn't human, after all. Spirit wards DO work on him and he spent 10 years in a cave and not died. Ranma's exact words: "ningen ja nai" (not human).

[Spokavriel]

I'm doing the anagrams in an improper way on purpose because I know its impossible with the original language. Heck even properly spelling it out in Romanji doesn't match the spellings I use in that post so why point this out that way? I'm not being a purist on names I'm looking to make up a connection like that no matter how impossible with real world because this concept is not a part of the real world.

Telepathy just made it so that Ranma didn't get as injured in the training and was subjected to weeks of repeated times being thrown into the pit instead of just a couple days. When Luna and Artemis were finally too exhausted to help quell things Ranma got the full torture and snapped before they could regain consciousness killing them and the other cats in the pit before escaping it.

I have seen no proof of the Moon cats being powerful. They are advisers and representatives from their home world to the Lunar court.

I didn't mean preemptive on the part of Pluto. She's the only active Senshi. She would have to deal with it. The Witches scenario including Mistress 9 and the attempt to find a way to contact Pharoh 90 (Impossible without the grail that can't be made without the Outers talismans) is going to end up happening on the Madd fathers schedule. There is nothing I can really think of to give a reason to delay it.

[Cheb]

'm doing the anagrams in an improper way on purpose because

Oh.

When Luna and Artemis were finally too exhausted to help quell things

I'm still not convinced. First off, they are sentient so they'd find a way to disrupt the training somehow. Talk Ranma out of it. Trick Genma with cries for help to make him think someone fell into the pit and then escape. Bluff Genma to take them out of the pit. After all, they are smarter than him.
You could easily have them cryo-capsule failure to remove them from the picture. Then find some creative way of getting the equipment to Kasumi.

I have seen no proof of the Moon cats being powerful.

In the anime, no. In the manga they have some supernatural abilities. Riding an airplane outside, on the wing, for example. Transforming between human and cat forms by themselves, without outside help. Weren't they initially Mau Senshi rejects?
But then, anime is a mess

and the attempt to find a way to contact Pharoh 90 (Impossible without the grail that can't be made without the Outers talismans) is going to end up happening on the Madd fathers schedule. There is nothing I can really think of to give a reason to delay it.

In the manga, the Time-space door is an artifact of sealing used to reinforce the inter-dimensional barriers. You could go from there.

[Spokavriel]

I guess you missed the point to why I want Luna and Artemis to die in the pit. I want them dead there for a few reasons.
1 is my DeusEx to help explain the dark kingdom seal lasting longer.
2 is to make the Neko-ken into something different from cannon. Something more useful.
3 To give Ranma a reason to be involved beyond 'Kasumi's involved'. Without trying to make him a Senshi.
4 To make it so Ranma is the one with access to what the Mau advisers had and possibly give a way for the cats to be involved that keeps them from being physically there.

The failed Senshi candidate thing... Wasn't that on Rei's Ravens?

Looking at the Ravens and Mau not to mention allot of other Sailor Moon baddies shape shifting to at least 1 alternate form is natural to some species in the series. And it appears to have no direct correlation to magical potential nor skill.

This is the first time I heard of them riding a plane on the outside. Going to have to look into that. Also have to read further. Even though I DLed fan scanlations that far I haven't actually read the Manga to that point yet.

[Ellen Kuhfeld]

I have seen no proof of the Moon cats being powerful. They are advisers and representatives from their home world to the Lunar court.

I think Season 1 Episode 31, "Luna's Worst Day Ever" quenches any ideas of a powerful moon cat -- at least in the anime continuity.

[AdmiralTigerclaw]

Unless of course, Luna could keep all her feline muscle capacity in a larger human form.

Hell, even without that bonus, just having opposable thumbs makes her more powerful.

[PCHeintz72]

As a FYI... an idea *somewhat* like this has been done at least once before with Kasumi... It was *not* Kasumi/Makoto or even a Sailor moon character though.

It was something in one of the DSWynne stories arcs. Ranma wanted Kasumi to experience what one of his Star Wars adventures was like, and gave her a device to basically let her live through it and experience it in first person as one of the participants.

I only ever read the intro to that arc thoguh, so no clue if it was any good.

[Wyrd]

The manga also shows the moon cats actively casting spells, including teleporting the entire team to the moon to meet Queen Serenity(whose ghost/personality imprint/whatever had been living in the lunar computer and was Central Control, not Artemis). One of the advantages of that continuity is that Queen Serenity specifically mentions that she is using the last of the power she had managed to hoard to get the moon cats active and to speak to them one last time, giving Venus the crystal sword from her prior life. Which never showed up again, probably because it got left somewhere in the arctic near d-point.

They aren't combat mages, but that doesn't make them useless. It just means that their useful abilities take too long to use in the average combat situation. Anime version is much, much weaker, never showing them do anything more powerful than summoning gear for the Senshi and transforming into human form with outside help.

Something from my own fic is that the Dark Kingdom breaking out and the Black Moon Clan's time travel were what weakened the walls of reality enough for Pharoah 90 to be capable of invading. That is why the outers never showed up while they were in the future, because they were never needed and never awakened.

The experiment that originally caused Hotaru to be possessed might have failed because the walls of reality were stronger, not succeeding until years later, thus pushing that timeline back far enough for you to work with. I can think of no way to realistically postpone Kaguya unless she either just isn't there, Pluto does something to alter her trajectory so she will arrive later, or it was the energies of the awakened Senshi that woke her up on this time through the solar system. In order for her to have been orbiting the system as long as she claims and still be passing close to Earth at any point in her orbit, she would have had to come close several times before and just not been awake to capitalize on it.

Galaxia is the easiest to push back. She is looking for Star Seeds/Sailor Crystals, so if there are no Senshi on Earth she wouldn't be interested. She controls 80% of the Galaxy in the manga, but that leaves a lot of other planets that she could be searching that looked more promising while Earth went unnoticed because the Senshi were dormant.

[Té Rowan]

Has anyone seen the stories where Ranma is Shinji in another reality and ends up mentally swapping realities while asleep?

There are more than Innortal's "Duality"? Cool.

[Spokavriel]

Duality is one of 3 I have seen. The other two I won't give links to or say their names though because they are part of a Hentai archive.