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Terms of address?

Postby Drawde » Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:10 am

What do the Ranma characters call each other? I know Ranma usually calls Genma "Pops", but what about the others? Especially, but not limited to, the Tendo sisters and Soun. English mainly, though in Japanese too, if possible.
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Postby SpaceKnight of Chaos » Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:03 am

Well, I'm more familiar with the anime than the manga, but this still might help.

Ranma tends to call Happosai various insulting names (not that he doesn't deserve them) like old freak, old goat, pervert and the like. The manga, at least in the original Japanese, has him refer to Kuno by a sarcastic variant of "upperclassman", or so I've heard. He refers to Ukyo as Ucchan (a childhood nickname) fairly often, generally when he's feeling particularly chummy. When particularly aggressive, he calls Genma old man. Soun he refers to as "Mr. Tendo" and he often calls Cologne by either Granny or Old Ghoul, generally depending on his mood with her.

Ukyo calls Ranma "Ranma-honey" when she's being friendly/affectionate to him, which I think is the dubbed anime's translation for 'Ranchan', her equivalent of his Ucchan. She does use Ranchan at least once, when he puts her on the defensive in their fight in her first appearance. When friendly, or mocking, of others, she often calls them Sugar, if I recall right. When angry, she tends to call people Jackass.

Despite fanon to the contrary, I can't think of any place in the anime where Shampoo uses her 'petnames' for the others (Kitchen Destroyer for Akane, Spatula Girl & Ribbon Girl for Ukyo and Kodachi), so I think this might be based on the manga if it's based on truth at all. She insults Mousse when she's upset with him, usually calling him stupid, and calls Ranma 'airen' (a Chinese title of affection, which translates closest as 'darling') when she's in her particularly friendly moods.

Akane tends to be respectful towards others, even those who get on her nerves. As far as I know, she always calls Genma Mr. Saotome and I recall several occasions where she refers to Tatewaki by Upperclassman, in complete seriousness.

Soun tends to call Ranma "son", and he and Genma usually refer to each other by their last names.

Nabiki calls Kuno by the mocking 'Kuno-baby'.
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Postby P.H. Wise » Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:07 am

As a general rule, Ranma speaks very, very informally towards people. It stands to reason that having lived on the road, he doesn't have a whole lot of refinement. Japanese has distinct levels of politeness in the way that words are spoken. It is, unfortunately, hard to convey this sense in English. It can be approximated with slang, but it really isn't the same thing.
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Postby Spokavriel » Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:51 am

I'm pretty sure I heard Kitchen Destroyer and Spatula Girl in one of the AMV's but I need to rewatch. There aren't allot of places where the Fiancée squad get to interact verbally.
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Postby antimatterenergy » Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:12 pm

This is some of the honorific usage in the Ranma manga from my blog, I've been meaning to add to it but haven't had the time. (Planning an article on dialects and accents but don't know when I'll get to it for instance will mention that Ranma even though usually speaks Tokyo version of Japanese he occasionally uses "ee" ending instead of "ai" or "ae" which is a common trait of an Osaka dialect and that Nabiki uses slang)

Some of the Honorific usage in Ranma ½

See this wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_titles
to get the basics of honorfics.

Ranma is generally disrespectful and rarely uses any honorifics. Though he will occasionally use them. He refers to Kuno with -sempai, sarcastically often though. Calls Soun Ojisan (uncle), Ucchan (childhood nickname) for Ukyo, -san for Kasumi, and Ojiisan (grandfather)and Obaasan(grandmother) for Happosai and Cologne occasionally. He also uses insult names sometimes like calling Nabiki Bitch (in fan translated - the actual Japanese word is different but basically means the same thing) or Old Ghoul to Cologne. (uses words like Temee and Kisama which are extremely rude forms of you that would translate to Bastard/bitch/asshole/etc... depending on how they were used).

Cologne uses -dono when referring to Ranma which implies that she respects Ranma to a large degree.

Kuno sometimes uses -kun for Akane.

Soun and Genma use -kun when talking to each other.

Akane doesn't use any honorific for Ranma and if she starts to do so it would imply that the relationship is breaking apart. She refers to Ryoga as Ryoga-kun and Kuno with -sempai.

Kodachi uses -sama for Ranma, and family name-san for everyone else, she is extremely formal in speech.

Konatsu uses -sama for Ukyou, Ranma, and Akane. He praises and raises status of other people while lowering his own status.

Nabiki refers to Kuno with -chan probably to annoy him and calls Ranma by his family name most of the time.

Happosai uses -chan for Ranma and Akane.

Ryoga is very respectful to most people and refers to them with -san. He even uses that for Akane.

Shampoo doesn't use honorifics because she either doesn't know the proper usage or is purposely being rude. Calls Ranma Airen which is in mandarin Chinese the dominant word used for spouse (literally means love person Ai=love Ren=Person) .

Ukyou normally uses -chan when referring to anyone and Ranchan for Ranma.

Hinako uses the family name-san for Ranma and other students.
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Postby Drawde » Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:09 pm

Thanks for the info. Now what about Soun and his daughters to each other?
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Postby antimatterenergy » Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:52 pm

Kasumi and Nabiki talking to Akane - generally imouto which is younger sister though they do call her by her name Akane as well or Akane-chan.

Akane to older sisters -ane or by their names. (non-family older sister is oneesan).

Daughters to Soun - chichi which is father but only for family members for non family members they would say otousan.

Soun to daughters by name
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