How would Akane fall out of favor with Ranma?

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Postby Spokavriel » Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:59 pm

Drawde how can that work? I thought one of the things clearly stated in the first post was trying to keep things in character. Akane has her stubborn streak but where do you find anywhere in the manga to suggest her being that controlling?
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Postby LadyRelena » Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:01 pm

Ok, I just came up with an idea compiling some of everyone's suggestions. Please be nice, I'm just throwing this one out there to see what everyone thinks of it.

This is for the Ranma/Shampoo fic.
Still need an idea for the Ranma/OC fic.


Lunch time at Furinkin. Ranma and Akane are bickering over Ranma having a sudden interest in Shampoo over the past month or so. It's the usual typical bickering that goes on most of the time.

Then Kasumi comes by the school with Ranma's lunch that he had forgotten at home because of R and A's previous bickering. Ranma then stops fighting with Akane to take the lunch from Kasumi. He then notices that Kasumi is wearing a new and very pretty hair pin. Ranma in a simply nice gesture says "That looks nice on you Kasumi" to which Akane goes off on him again.

Akane yells at him for not saying nice things to her when he says them to Kasumi.

Ranma yells that that's because Kasumi isn't an uncute violent gorilla like her.

Then in a moment of anger Akane tells Ranma that the engagement is off and that he can go marry Kasumi if he wants.

Of course the whole school hears this since it's lunch time.

At first Ranma is clearly shocked but being the prideful idiot that he is then says "Fine who would want to be engaged to you anyway."

The whole school goes in an uproar and Kasumi says the proverbial "Oh My."
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Postby SpaceKnight of Chaos » Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:37 pm

It doesn't look half bad, although the part about Ranma paying attention to Shampoo being the cause of things doesn't make much sense- canonically, Ranma pays pretty much no attention whatsoever to Shampoo & Ukyo until and unless they approach him first. A more likely idea would be for Akane to to be angry at Ranma for having gotten glomped or somesuch by Shampoo, given that it's canon for her to get angry at him for such behavior (Reversal Jewel storyline, attacking Ranma & Shampoo after seeing the latter hugging the former in the anime take on the Super Soba storyline, bashing Ranma over the head with a bucket for likewise getting hugged in Shampoo's second anime episode).

The other thing that stands out is Kasumi bringing Ranma the bento he left behind; normally, if that happens, and Ranma somehow didn't have Genma give it to him on the way too school, Ranma goes hungry. You'll need an explanation for why Kasumi decided to drop it off- perhaps she was originally going to see Dr. Tofu (say, to retain a book or give him a dish), and because Ranma forgot the bento, she decided to drop by on her way?
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Postby LadyRelena » Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:47 pm

SpaceKnight of Chaos wrote:It doesn't look half bad, although the part about Ranma paying attention to Shampoo being the cause of things doesn't make much sense- canonically, Ranma pays pretty much no attention whatsoever to Shampoo & Ukyo until and unless they approach him first. A more likely idea would be for Akane to to be angry at Ranma for having gotten glomped or somesuch by Shampoo, given that it's canon for her to get angry at him for such behavior (Reversal Jewel storyline, attacking Ranma & Shampoo after seeing the latter hugging the former in the anime take on the Super Soba storyline, bashing Ranma over the head with a bucket for likewise getting hugged in Shampoo's second anime episode).


Oh sorry I niglected to mention that Ranma is paying more attention to Shampoo because she's been acting straingly toward everyone. I don't want to give it away but I'll just say that something termatic ends up happening to Shampoo that makes her rethink what she's been doing for the last two years of her life.

Anyway, Ranma, being the curious type, obviously wants to know what the heck is going on with her. So, Ranma unwittingly ends up spending time with her so he can get to the bottom of her weirdness. Of course Akane doesn't take to kindly to this and starts raging on him about it.

SpaceKnight of Chaos wrote:The other thing that stands out is Kasumi bringing Ranma the bento he left behind; normally, if that happens, and Ranma somehow didn't have Genma give it to him on the way too school, Ranma goes hungry. You'll need an explanation for why Kasumi decided to drop it off- perhaps she was originally going to see Dr. Tofu (say, to retain a book or give him a dish), and because Ranma forgot the bento, she decided to drop by on her way?


I thought Kasumi would do one of her air headed "Oh Ranma forgot his lunch." and bring it to school. Kasumi is known for sometimes doing weird random things every once in a great while. However, your idea sounds better so I think I'll take it.
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Postby three headed dog » Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:12 pm

But you forget that Genma is extremely afraid of Nadoka and does pretty much everything she tells him to do.


Not really, she didn't want Ranma to go on the trip. Even hit Genma repeatedly until he decided to create the contract. He is afraid that she will make him and Ranma go through with the contract but if his life isn't on the line he will disobey her. He even tried to steal from her in the manga.

I believe the scene where they were shown has Kodachi attempt to start breaking the ice on that subject, but they get caught up in havoc and destroy the Saotome house before they get anywhere.


No that was later. That scene in which they talk to her happens when he first moves into his mothers house and Akane comes with his laundry. See's them talking so throws a brick at the back of his head knocking him out.

They can't challenge her for fear of Ranma, and she won't challenge them, so the whole thing grinds along its closed circle.


Shampoo has challenged Akane for Ranma. Akane doesn't accept those challenges. During the beginning of the super soba arc. Shampoo beat Akane in arm wrestling. Akane wanted a rematch. Shampoo said only would have rematch if Ranma was on the line.

I heard it called a face guard. I can't remember if there is a more technical or other name for it.

The armor or bogu consists of four pieces: the helmet (men), the body protector (do), the gloves (kote), and the hip and groin protector (tare).
I wonder could you use Akane's Theatrical aspirations as a reason to break them up?


Akane doesn't really have theatrical aspirations. At first she didn't want to be in the play at all. She tried to convince them to instead use Ranma. The only reason she did do it was because the part offered. She had always wanted to be Juliette. Considering the experience and her previously not wanting to be in it and not being in the drama club it is unlikely that she has theatrical aspirations.

It's a normal day at Furinkan (remember, fights don't happen every day), and part of one of the classes involves discussing their plans for the future. Ranma, who goes before Akane, gives his plans, at which point Akane inturrupts him, stating exactly what she plans for him to do with his life. During the resulting, and public, argument, it comes out that Akane honestly believes that Ranma's supposed to do everything she says, without question. That's why she's constantly hitting him, for disobeying her.


Akane is not really very controlling. Ranma goes were he wants without her say so and does basically anything he wants. Half the time she doesn't even know where he is -when he goes on various trips. She has used his fear of cats to get him to do what she wanted a few times but Ranma also has manipulated her to do stuff as well. So neither are really controlling. Also Ranma doesn't seem to have decided what to do with his life yet. He is only 16 and has some time before having to make a choice.

Ranma in a simply nice gesture says "That looks nice on you Kasumi" to which Akane goes off on him again.


I don't see that happening. In the manga there is a story arc in which Ranma spends the day with Nabiki after destroying her concert ticket by accident. Akane was not upset with Ranma when she thought that Ranma had Nabiki model clothes for him.

If Shampoo is acting weird Ranma would likely spend more time with her. That is a pretty good way of going about it. Otherwise would have her offer him new types of training or something so he spends time with her to learn the techniques.
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Postby SpaceKnight of Chaos » Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:47 pm

I don't know about the manga, but in the anime she has gotten angry with Ranma and confronted him, albeit only verbally, for spending time with others (Ukyo's Skirt episode for example).

Also, did Akane know about Ranma having destroyed Nabiki's concert ticket in that storyline?

And in the Super Soba one, wasn't that rematch in arm-wrestling more of a departing taunt from Shampoo? I haven't read the manga's version, but in the anime it's parting taunt that Shampoo tosses back over her shoulder as she cycles off, having declared that she has to complete a delivery, so she's got not time to play with a weakling like Akane.
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Swirl, swirl, slithery pond, and join with magic spring!
Swirl, swirl, dirty pond, and rid the cursed sting!
Here my prayer, I beg you please!
Now turn these curses BACK!

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Postby LadyRelena » Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:52 pm

three headed dog wrote:I don't see that happening. In the manga there is a story arc in which Ranma spends the day with Nabiki after destroying her concert ticket by accident. Akane was not upset with Ranma when she thought that Ranma had Nabiki model clothes for him.


This is a bit different from their usual fights. Ranma has been spending time with Shampoo for an unknown reason. Plus we all know how Akane get's when she's in the heat of an argument. The stress of Ranma spending time with Shampoo combined with the complement he gives to Kasumi, I think would be enough to though her over the edge.
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Postby SpaceKnight of Chaos » Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:00 pm

And it's not unprecedented- it was a similar situation that got Ranma engaged to Nabiki, after all. Akane got mad at Nabiki, blew up at Ranma, then declared he could go and marry Nabiki after Ranma saved the money-grubber from a fall (caused by Akane, but that's neither here nor there) instead of tending to Akane (though in her mood, she'd probably have been just as angry at Ranma for 'babying her').
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Swirl, swirl, slithery pond, and join with magic spring!
Swirl, swirl, dirty pond, and rid the cursed sting!
Here my prayer, I beg you please!
Now turn these curses BACK!

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Postby Spokavriel » Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:03 pm

I guess it could theoretically work except you now have Akane more or less venting anger indirectly at Kasumi. Could she do that? This is the background character Sister who even angels go to for advice on keeping their whites bright enough.((Not cannon but making a point.))
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Postby SpaceKnight of Chaos » Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:11 pm

Spokavriel has a point- in the manga canon, I think it might actually be more in character for Akane to punch Ranma for flirting with Kasumi than it would be for her to declare the engagement is over and he should switch to her.

Hmm... perhaps the better idea would be for to have Shampoo come to Furinkan? She has canonically shown up with food for him, I think, and if she's come especially to give Ranma her gratitude/appreciation for him actually taking an interest in her life for once, that would definately make Akane blow up at Ranma.
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Drowned ones cast bad spell and out come pig, girl, duck, panda!
Swirl, swirl, slithery pond, and join with magic spring!
Swirl, swirl, dirty pond, and rid the cursed sting!
Here my prayer, I beg you please!
Now turn these curses BACK!

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Postby Spokavriel » Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:16 pm

Akane would blow up in that situation but I don't see her ever giving up the engagement in front of any of the other Fiancees.
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Postby LadyRelena » Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:18 pm

Spokavriel wrote: I guess it could theoretically work except you now have Akane more or less venting anger indirectly at Kasumi. Could she do that? This is the background character Sister who even angels go to for advice on keeping their whites bright enough.((Not cannon but making a point.))


I would just make it so that Akane would only mad at Ranma's gesture toward Kasumi, not Kasumi herself.

Now that I had found something for my R/S fic I still need to find a way to break RxA up for my RxOc to happen. And yes I would like a confrontation between my Oc and Akane.
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Postby SpaceKnight of Chaos » Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:37 pm

Spokavriel wrote: Akane would blow up in that situation but I don't see her ever giving up the engagement in front of any of the other Fiancees.


If memory serves, she did do just that in the Red Thread of Fate episode. As well as when Shampoo first gave Ranma the Kiss of Marriage. Plus, while she mightn't, I wouldn't find it too hard to believe if she and Ranma started arguing over Shampoo's behavior and Ranma runs his mouth off by mentioning that Akane has, on more than one occasion, declared their engagement null and void- she's just never stuck to her guns about it.

To LadyRelena: nothing comes to mind off the top of my head, but a confrontation between your OC and Akane could come after Akane has more-or-less broken up with him. Akane dropping by to harangue Ranma, or maybe to sarcastically 'congratulate' the OC on winning "an untrustworthy perverted no-good jerk" , would naturally prompt your OC to defend Ranma like a real would-be lover should, tempers on both sides flare higher and finally they start fighting- either right there and then (unlikely) or after having declared an 'official' challenge.
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Swirl, swirl, slithery pond, and join with magic spring!
Swirl, swirl, dirty pond, and rid the cursed sting!
Here my prayer, I beg you please!
Now turn these curses BACK!

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Postby three headed dog » Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:39 pm

I don't know about the manga, but in the anime she has gotten angry with Ranma and confronted him, albeit only verbally, for spending time with others (Ukyo's Skirt episode for example).

Also, did Akane know about Ranma having destroyed Nabiki's concert ticket in that storyline?

And in the Super Soba one, wasn't that rematch in arm-wrestling more of a departing taunt from Shampoo? I haven't read the manga's version, but in the anime it's parting taunt that Shampoo tosses back over her shoulder as she cycles off, having declared that she has to complete a delivery, so she's got not time to play with a weakling like Akane.

In the manga Ranma has spent time with the other girls without Akane getting overly angry. She got a little but not a lot. Example. Hiryu Shoten Ha story line, time stayed at Ukyo's during gambling king arc, etc..

She knew he destroyed the ticket but she still didn't get angry over it. You'd think she would have gotten angry over her sister trying clothes on for him.

In the manga she says she has little time but also mentions that she will if Ranma is at stake. She was only willing to fight if Ranma was at stake.

This is a bit different from their usual fights. Ranma has been spending time with Shampoo for an unknown reason. Plus we all know how Akane get's when she's in the heat of an argument. The stress of Ranma spending time with Shampoo combined with the complement he gives to Kasumi, I think would be enough to though her over the edge.


More likely to just hit Ranma. He has spent time with the others for various reasons before and complimented others with Akane around -like calling Akane the uncute fiancee and calling the cute fiancee. She'd get angry but not too much.

The engagement switch was caused by more than just the catching Nabiki. They had been arguing earlier as well.

Also should mention if Akane breaks the engagement it just switches it to one of her sisters. The engagement is to a Tendo -not Akane specifically.

Mentioned wanting a stupid reason to argue. Arguing over Kuno. I can see it happening if he chose just one of them or for some other reason.
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Postby Drawde » Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:33 pm

Spokavriel wrote: Drawde how can that work? I thought one of the things clearly stated in the first post was trying to keep things in character. Akane has her stubborn streak but where do you find anywhere in the manga to suggest her being that controlling?

No, Akane isn't controlling. But it's very difficult to come up with a reason to break them up, by canon. You have to fudge something somewhere. And Takahashi herself did that a lot for her jokes.

As for Ranma deciding what to do with his life, at 16, in this idea, how do you think most people would react to learning that the person they're engaged to has their life planned out for them? The engagement doesn't even need to be broken at this point. He could leave on his training trip after learning about the Tendos during breakfast, to think things through. During this time, he could even meet the OC LadyRelena has planned. Imagine if you just learned not only your new friend's fiancee's plans for him, but that she won't take no for an answer? How would you react, as a Takahashi martial artist?
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