Ether Morph (Story in progress)

[Spokavriel]

Spring of drowned Rakshasa Ranma? Born Rakshasa Ranma.... But having this already OC Ranma taken away from Genma so early just made it so that clearly nothing in cannon Ranma really has reason to have anything close to cannon happen at all. And with no hint of cannon could it be a cross?

[KonokoHasano]

Ah, ah, ah... I think I might switch gears with this story.

1.) Take out Ranma being taken away by Peachbody
2.) After the mini-scene with three-year-old Ranma and Genma, switch all the way to where Canon-Ranma 1/2 starts.
3.) Have a fun time screwing WITH canon, because the Ranma in this story will be different in obvious ways to Canon-Ranma, but still be Ranma.

Jusenkyou is something that wouldn't be a factor, because since this Ranma and Genma aren't completely about martial arts, then there wouldn't be a need to go there.

[Spokavriel]

What about giving other reasons for a China portion to the training trip? Maybe visiting the Phoenix since they are another mythical race with an obvious address and that could keep the Amazons as an option to appear?

[KonokoHasano]

I doubt I'll have the Amazons appear. Plus, the Phoenix aren't exactly fond of land people, so they wouldn't be keen on a visit. Even though Ranma and Genma could possibly transform into them, I don't think it'd work.

[frice2000]

Very interesting start. Disagree with your statement about Ranma cannon though. Honestly, you want to take Ranma away from Genma that young and give him none of the same experiences, training, or defining fiancees which you're gravitating towards you might as well have written a GD Fanfic with a OC Rakasha as others have stated. In my opinion you should jump ahead as one of your idea options contemplated and also have had them go to China to train. I mean mystically speaking you can throw in the Amazons. Cologne alone has plenty of artifacts. Perhaps Genma thought one of them would have lots of energy or he has experience with them in the past or some such or heard Happosai mention them? Perhaps put them in to train Ranma's female form? Hell...Good cross with the Amazon Breeders and such from GD cannon, could do the whole related thing possibly tie it into Jade with however you throw the GD cannon into this. One of the reasons they could go to China is that Genma wants to go to Jade to train and he thinks the Amazon's in China could know how to get there without a handy Mage? Could screw with perceptions and have them not even know its their or some such...All in all could be a very interesting segment. Have the Amazon's think Ranma has a standard Nyannichaun curse when he really doesn't which can then be played up later.

Hell, I can think of other ideas with the Ranma cannon too. Have Ukyou meet up with Ranma and his "sister" or whatever they're doing with his female forms persona...Have the engagement or not based on misunderstanding of each others gender? This Genma could set Ranma up with her because he thinks she has a high degree of energy? Have Ryouga's family be some sort of paranormal hunters but really really bad at it with only a moderate sense of non-humans and have him want to kill him because he recognizes him as a non-human but doesn't know what kind, but have Ranma be kind to him and have him attracted to his female form...Make the Tendo's mother a Mage of some kind. Plenty of options in Ranma cannon to put your own spin on things but not totally change characters and experiences so that the characters are unrecognizable.

All in all I was greatly enjoying the snippets you've written thus far but for the last one. Hope you continue with it I think it could be lots of fun to read. Just don't turn it into a harem fic .

[LawOhki]

One of the reasons they could go to China is that Genma wants to go to Jade to train and he thinks the Amazon's in China could know how to get there without a handy Mage?

The "Amazon's" in Ranma 1/2 are not really Amazons, it was a mistranslation. So Genma wouldn't really see a connection between the Amazon's on Jade, and the couple villages of warrior women in China.

[frice2000]

I'm aware that they are supposed to be Warrior women and such...But come on you can make certain leaps following cannon not so literally and still have it work out. Easily plausible scenario: Happosai told Genma and Soun while training that he knows of a strong race of Warrior women who seek, manipulate, and/or kidnap strong males to strengthen their bloodline. Genma could easily mistake similar cultural practices with the Amazon's of GD lore. Not a stretch.

And besides...Shoe fits them anyway. Strong matriarchal female dominated warrior society. Using the word "Amazon" to describe them fits just fine.

[LawOhki]

I'm aware that they are supposed to be Warrior women and such...But come on you can make certain leaps following cannon not so literally and still have it work out. Easily plausible scenario: Happosai told Genma and Soun while training that he knows of a strong race of Warrior women who seek, manipulate, and/or kidnap strong males to strengthen their bloodline. Genma could easily mistake similar cultural practices with the Amazon's of GD lore. Not a stretch.

And besides...Shoe fits them anyway. Strong matriarchal female dominated warrior society. Using the word "Amazon" to describe them fits just fine.

Amazon's in GD lore are rather tame, the Amazon Breeders are the semi-psychotic ones who are the best and strongest. Even then, only the most mentally unstable and rebellious would actually force themselves on someone.

Ranma 1/2 "Amazons" - We do not know that they are a 'matriarchal society'. It is very possible that the opposite is true. In a very dark view, women could be seen as objects in their society, with the marry an outside male the only way to escape from being 'bought', or seen as damaged goods. There's far too little information given for them to say that the name "Amazon" fits, when it was never supposed to be it in the first place.

[frice2000]

I see no need to make this into any sort of argument. I disagree with both your assessments though. From GD Tangent source material (which had the most Amazon's of any of the GD Cannon I've read) my impression of Amazon culture from GD could easily be interpreted to be similar to the Nycheizu (wrong spelling I'm sure I think the direction translation is supposed to be Strong Village of Warrior Women), or an outside observer with less then full information could mistake the two cultures as being very similar. But I can understand easily where you're coming from and I can see your point. I just don't agree with it.

[LawOhki]

I see no need to make this into any sort of argument. I disagree with both your assessments though. From GD Tangent source material (which had the most Amazon's of any of the GD Cannon I've read) my impression of Amazon culture from GD could easily be interpreted to be similar to the Nycheizu (wrong spelling I'm sure I think the direction translation is supposed to be Strong Village of Warrior Women), or an outside observer with less then full information could mistake the two cultures as being very similar. But I can understand easily where you're coming from and I can see your point. I just don't agree with it.

GD Tangent features the Amazon Breeder subgroup, which is a small part of the Amazon group. The Breeders themselves being described as 'temperamental' by Fred in the first sourcebook, likely as a way to discourage unwanted advances.

Genma, if he wanted to go to Jade, probably should have already been there, so he could easily have skimmed the knowledge on how to cast the proper spell by whoever brought him before.

Spells that could do it. (When starting work on 'Platinum' I went through and listed all the spells used in GD)
Dimension Door
Ethereal Gate (Very uncommon spell)
Land Gate (This and Sea Gate only open at Midnight)
Sea Gate
Nature's Gate (Druidic magic)

[Spokavriel]

Most Amazons I end up seeing in GD are human and giantesses. It's so easy to imagine that a group of dwarves (Remember Gnolla isn't exactly a shrimp) might have been a group to go to the Earth realm and establish that village. But wasn't it said that the Amazons might not be brought in at all?

[LawOhki]

Most Amazons I end up seeing in GD are human and giantesses. It's so easy to imagine that a group of dwarves (Remember Gnolla isn't exactly a shrimp) might have been a group to go to the Earth realm and establish that village. But wasn't it said that the Amazons might not be brought in at all?

Amazon's are humans, the giants are Barbarians. Such as Julia's mother.

[Cheb]

Why try to stick close to canon at all?

Well, moving away from the canon is fine -- but then, where's Ranma in it? You could just name him Bob, that would make no difference.

Unless you plan to bring the thing you create to Tendous, who are 100% canon, and watch what difference that would make.
That's the problem with AUs. If you take too many liberties, it technically stops being a fanfic, moving into the realm of Original fiction.

All in all I was greatly enjoying the snippets you've written thus far but for the last one.

I wanted to say absolutely the same

[KonokoHasano]

It's possible that Genma and Ranma could have visited Jade a few times while on the training trip. Maybe it would have allowed Ranma to learn a few things.

And yeah, I'm definitely not going to add the Joketsuzoku. Unless there ends up being a reason for it, they're staying out.


Cheb: Yeah, which is why it is best to switch gears and go about a more 'traditional' route, but have fun with liberties brought on by this Ranma being different in several aspects.

[Spokavriel]

How about using an old Ryouga ploy to get the Joketsuzoku involved? Have it be him who ended up at Jusenkyo only on his own. It's not like people don't end up cursed without having to be knocked in anyway. And then have him still cursed (Take your pick for which one) End up with him developing a crush on Akane so he frequents the Nerima area and then he could have just as easily done something to get the Amazons after him causing them to still be in the area with their Nekohanten restaurant.