camk4evr wrote:
1 - Not when you're in a running battle and happen to be at ground zero.
2 - It takes time to get an aircraft into the air even if there are no other planes landing and taking off. He then has to control enough to turn it around and bring it down on the senshi while dodging their attacks (and there may even be a limit as to how far away from the aircraft he can be and still control it). If he keeps the aircraft on the ground he can give up control for short periods without running the risk of losing control of it or of the plane getting too far away for it to be an effective weapon and he can use it as a shield or use it to disrupt the senshi's attacks. \this doesn't even take into account that to target the senshi he has to be close enough to see them which can be a bit difficult at night.
3 - In the end it was probably just easier to control the plane while it was on the ground, as he fought the senshi, than while it was in the air (and, if I remember correctly, he still lost control of it enough to almost run himself down).
4 - And before anyone says that he could just fly the plane from inside it and crash it into the senshi I will point out that 1) he was using himself as bait to draw out the senshi and would run the risk of them leaving if they don't see him because they decided his threat was actually a trick to draw them away, 2) they could readily destroy the aircraft before it hit them if he wasn't on the ground to draw away their attention, and 3) he'd still have to escape while ensuring the plane hit the senshi (not easy).
AdmiralTigerclaw wrote:Your efforts to justify Jed's stupidity are futile. His failure just can't be justified. He was stupid, and because he was stupid, he lost. Maybe he was stupid because the plot called for it, maybe he was always intended to be stupid. Either way, he was stupid. Which is good for the good guys, but that doesn't matter. I'm strictly talking about him.
Crescent Pulsar R wrote:Sailor Poot-O?
1: When you can fly, teleport, and generally leave ground zero against girls who's best mobility has been power jumping. When you can personally fly, abuse it. He failed to do so.
2: An aircraft can go from cold start to airborne in two minutes. So time isn't an issue, the Senshi aren't going anywhere anyway. As for controlling the vehicle at range. The guy can teleport and fly. He had no reason to stick around and bait the Senshi. A huge 747 taking to the sky would ensure they stick around wondering what he was going to do next. After all, you don't leave a madman alone in control of a giant weapon.
3: So he's not only stupid, he's lazy. His ass was on the line and he half-assed his attempt. No wonder Beryl locked him away. At least Manga version got the decency of being violently incinerated by Rei. This version lost control of a plane he had no reason losing control of, because Mars slapped im with an Ofuda, because he was too lazy to stay up away from the Senshi, and too arrogant to take them more seriously.
4: Hah! Like I said, they'd LEAVE knowing he was flying a 747? Leave to where? An 747 is a giant bomb with wings. They won't leave because anywhere else allows him to kill them AND hundreds of people. This is Tokyo we're talking about. The airport's empty taxiways are the best place to be short of diving into the bay to keep bystanders out of the way. And no, destroying the aircraft in the air before it could hit would be futile. Instead of a 747 barreling down on you, you have a 100 ton fireball fixing to slam into you. Just in case you missed this part of reality, things don't just vanish when destroyed. Usagi had better be minmaxing her Dodge stats.
camk4evr wrote:They don't actually fly, they hover or float in place and they don't seem capable teleport of teleporting short distances. Not that I can remember at any rate.
Two minutes is a long time when you have three magical girls throwing magic at you (or when someone's shooting at you or robbing you or...^_^). Besides, did he clear the runway after every civillian was 'asleep''? If you have to navigate a course of stopped aircraft it's going to take sometime (and there's always the possibility of incoming aircraft to screw you up)
There's a difference between easy and being lazy. It's easy to drive a car but not so much if you're being shot at, firing back, and you aren't familiar with cars in the first place. It's therefore not lazy to someone else drive while you're fighting back.
1) they'd have to know he was on the plane and it wasn't one that got out before he cast his spell or a regular flight comming in, 2) the senshi have proven to be rather resilient to attacks that can wreck buildings and vehicles, and 3) the senshi can teleport or, at least seem to to the generals as they keep appearing out of nowhere to stop them. Further the generals are familiar with the senshi's past selves and don't really have any idea what the latest incarnations are capable of so they probably assume that the senshi have the same abilities as their past selves (since they usually bugger off and leave the fighting to the youma they usually don't witness the fight and how much trouble they have).
If anything the generals aren't so much stupid as stupidly arrogant (yes, there's a difference, ie, Dr Doom or Lex Luthor). They assume that since they (apparently) killed the senshi before that they can do so again when they turn their attention to it (admittedly they had an army backing them at the time but being imprisoned for thousands of years probably hasn't done anything to help their mental processes any^_^). To make matters worse Jadeite is rather desperate at this point as he knows that to fail again is death (he ran back to Beryl because he figured that having seen their civillian identities, she would grant him leniency).
Crescent Pulsar R wrote:I'd argue that even that wouldn't make him stupid. First of all, his goal up until the last episode was to gather energy, and as far as that was concerned Beryl had no complaint. So long as he was getting enough energy, he had no real reason to get personally involved.
AdmiralTigerclaw wrote:He wasn't being shot at ahead of time, or before he sent the planes after them. In fact, he didn't spend very much time getting shot at, at all. And what retardedness is this? Clear the runway? Unless an aircraft is actively landing, the runway is ALWAYS clear. And given how the airport was almost completely shut down, and how he could freely taxi a plane the size of a 747 around without too much trouble, there was nobody on the taxiways. And finally, considering he knocked out everyone in the airport, there was nobody awake in Haneda Tower to grant landing clearance for any aircraft that might have been making an approach. Which would force them to divert to Narita, just fifty miles north east.
Irrellivent. His plane was his attack. He doesn't have to stand around getting shot at. He just has to float safely above the battle and make a grim face while flying his weapon into his target.
1: They don't have to know anything about Jadeite's plane. He just has to ram them until they give up. And it's hard to miss the only 747 in the area making a takeoff roll.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IprW_i4PZd0
2: Resiliance to attacks that dent metal and crack cement, yes. But they are not yet at the level of withstanding a 394,100 lb battering ram filled with 57,285 gallons of kaboom juice slamming into them at 300 knots. (Stats: 747-400)
3: The Senshi cannot perform a combat teleport (Tactical Teleport). Only Sailor Teleport at this time.
Stupid is as stupid does. His arrogance doesn't justify his stupidity, only makes it stand out. From day one, these girls haven't just been annoying. They've been killing his monster minions. Yet despite this fact, he never, EVER took them seriously. That's STUPID.
Crescent Pulsar R wrote:Also, at least in the subbed version of episode 11, it's Jadeite himself who says that he will kill the senshi, not Beryl.
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