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Postby katleeh » Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:21 pm

Okay, after thinking about some of the things I planned for the series, I've come to the realization that I'm going to need to do some background with some things.

First of all, with the switchover/addon of the Nanoha magical system, I'll have to do some additions to the storyline which makes it kind of like a fusion. (IE: Lost Logia being artifacts and technology which survived the fall of the Silver Moon Empire).

Next, Fiora is a guardian beast/familiar, take your choice in terms. I'll revise that one dream bit to show that Fiora was the first to fall, protecting her mistress who is Cassandra. There will be some interesting things explained there so be patient while I figure out the proper places to put those.

Now, what about if Metallia was the Book of Darkness Lost Logia, would that work? Then, she possesses Kodachi when the Kuno sibling comes into contact with the book while searching through her basements for something to help her capture her "Ranma-sama". There would be a tie-in using Akane, Shampoo, and Ukyo as well.

Does anyone have any suggestions on a better method of tying the magical system in from Nanoha with the SM/R crossover? It was pointed out that Ranma/Cassandra would end up being too powerful with the Nanoha powers, yet I recall her being very vulnerable while casting some of those more powerful spells, hence why Fiora has to guard her.

The power balance is another thing I'm concerned with since I don't want the good guys being more powerful. Course, I'm not afraid to amp up the bad guy powers to keep up with it either.

I'm going to have to design some new Nanoha weapons for the various senshi as well. Any ideas on that? I'm thinking a sound-based one for Pluto... maybe it would be called "Sonaria" or some such.

I hadn't planned on this having any kind of fusion from Nanoha at all so this is turning out to be more background than I had planned.

Ranma will stay with the Tendos for a time. Can anyone tell me how this might be done properly? As it is, I already have some ideas in mind for personal conflict with his mother, father, etc...

I'm sure I missed some questions... I just can't remember all the ones I had.

Thanks in advance for any input I can get.

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Postby katleeh » Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:39 pm

Whoops, just remembered one of the other questions.

I'm not sure which senshi Ranma ends up with, although having him end up with those who are unattached was my original idea. Question is, how would I do that and make it work? Is there a pro and con for and against that idea?

Keep in mind one of the things I always found annoying was that there was always only 2 pairs who had lovers. Sailor Moon and Endymion, Neptune and Uranus. The others never have a lover in their lives. Someone once told me that they are loyal to the crown, essentially I guess married to their service of thier queen. I don't buy that one. Love is a powerful thing and beings which live a long time would need someone in their lives.

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Postby Heaven's Deamon » Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:34 am

One thing that makes me wince in that is the "Mettallia = Yami no sho" thing. Mettallia is supposed to be more or less a power demon, pure evil, and all that kind of thing. The Book of Darkness was originally an Archive used to record various spell that was corupted when someone tried to turn it into a weapon and essentially broke the self defence program in the process. Mettallia could be used AS the corruptive element, having tried to absorb the book, or possibly a past hero had tried having the book absorb her only for her to corrupt parts of it.

For limiting power early on, you could have the devices you give them heavily damaged. Still functional, but limit in what spells they can use, how much strain they can take while casting and so on. Due to comparitive tech levels between modern day and the S. Millenium repairing them becomes a prolonged endevor as whoever acts as the "techie" of the group has to essentially recreate the parts needed from scratch.
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Postby Tovath » Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:59 pm

katleeh wrote:Keep in mind one of the things I always found annoying was that there was always only 2 pairs who had lovers. Sailor Moon and Endymion, Neptune and Uranus. The others never have a lover in their lives. Someone once told me that they are loyal to the crown, essentially I guess married to their service of thier queen. I don't buy that one. Love is a powerful thing and beings which live a long time would need someone in their lives.


Yes they do, but the problem is the senshi live at least several thousand years; a normal human is lucky to live a hundred. For all we know the others could have gotten married between the end of the seris and Crsytal Tokyo and then watched them grow old and die. Then there is the fact no normal person could understand what they had been though. In other words any lifemate that they find will have to be as unusal as them and it is hard to find someone like that.
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Postby katleeh » Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:56 pm

*nods* Indeed, hence why having the unbonded ones with Ranma might not be a bad idea. *shrugs* I have to give it some thought. It was one of the concepts from Neko Moon that I thought was a rather good idea. Still, there is plenty of time to work on that one.

I have to figure out how I would do the story if I did decide to do that one. Perhaps, it would make the senshi more loyal to the Princesses if only in that the love they had for them was real. Course, there would be drawbacks to that as well.

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Postby nodregah » Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:30 pm

Just an idea, why not have what you call unbonded Senshi do what every one else must do? Have find a lover and do the hard thing and watch them grow old and die. It sounds cruel, but that would be one of the costs of having such power. Yes, they are powerful beings. Yes, they are considered ,in some eyes, royalty. Have this as part of the price they have to pay to have the power. If they find a match among their ranks, good. Just an exception to a rule. I hate to say this, but I find the Utopian future rather like Disney World. All happy and good on the outside, but behind the scenes are less than appealing.
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Postby katleeh » Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:01 pm

*hmms* That is an idea. I'll have to see like I said. I have to work more on the usagi/Ranma relationship as siblings and such first. The effect on Ranma as a person, that is to say having a sibling, ought to be interesting... Have her kick his ass at some point using her powers would actually be a riot, I just have to think about how that could occur... Its probably not realistic but there should be some way.

As far as the Metallia thing goes... I really don't know anything about Metallia/Beryl. I only know that Beryl was being controlled/influenced by Metallia and supposedly both were killed by Usagi already. After thinking about how Reinforce came about in the first place, I wonder if perhaps Metallia found it first, then it essentially destroyed her, absorbing her in the process. Then Beryl found it, it granted her power which was used to destroy the Silver Millenium, being stopped by the Arc-En-Soul at the time which would be the Silver Crystal. And now it goes to Kodachi... Admittedly its a weak concept and I probably won't go with it, but it was a spur of the moment idea.

As it stands, when Ranma and Usagi met up, there was a slight dimensional flux caused by the Silver MIllenium Crystal which allowed Metallia to slip through and possess Kodachi. In the way I'm writing her, Metallia is a full demoness, hence why she uses Youma, and why she can't seem to be killed.

The next idea is that I plan to have Cassandra/Ranma go to the various castles and reactivate the AI programs there, slowly resurrecting the empire. Not sure how to do this as of yet, but it was something I always wondered why wasn't done. Course, I didn't even think it was possible until I rad a few fanfictions which caused me to realize that it was probably possible. Is there anything in canon SM which would indicate this being possible?

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Postby Heaven's Deamon » Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:25 pm

I'm inclined to ask if you have actually watched Nanoha, or if you're going off things you heard on boards or in fanfics. If you are only using second hand knowledge then you should really ask a lot more questions about the parts you intend to include to make sure you've got your reffrences right (or you could watch the series yourself). The reason I'm saying this is because if you don't you could make mistakes that could cause fans of the series in question to simply stop reading regardless of how good a storyline you made. And note that this is as aplicable to Ranma and Sailor Moon as to the Nanoha part. (Example: The attack used to stop the raging defense program is called "L'Arc en Ciel")
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Postby katleeh » Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:11 am

*grins* Oh, yes, I have watched Nanoha... many times. Its one of my favorite animes. However, I couldn't remember the ships gun program that they used to destroy Reinforce's... defensive programs? I forgot what they called the monster that they were fighting at the end of Season 2. I'm in the process of watching the entire series again, although I haven't watched Season 3 yet. That will come soon I hope.

As far as Ranma and Sailor Moon go, I'm making some changes as I go along with the history. Some things just seem too... contrived for my liking. (IE: the idea of the Silver Millenium Crystal being formed by the souls of the 7 original youma which if I remember correctly were collected by killing some innocent people... that never settled well with me and really made no sense.) So, I promise you that I will attempt to have a solid storyline and history for the entire thing, covering both series. The Nanoha part is only the magic system/weaponry. I hadn't planned on integrating this much into the story, but ah well, as they say the best laid plans of mice and men...

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Postby Heaven's Deamon » Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:30 am

Ah. I see. that part you just mentioned on the silver crystal was (too my knowledge) Anime filler and not part of the Manga, so you could easily do something about it. Perhaps make the Crystal and early Device core, much higher "power amplification" abilities due to it's prototype status, but a much more limited AI.

For the Book of Midnight Sky, it was originally an Archival Tome. One of the abilities it displayed was actually taking a mage (Fate) into itself to intigrate them into it (Which would presumably have made her a part of the Wolkenritter) Perhaps you could say that a past holder had tried to use this function to seal Metallia long ago, or at least discover her magic knowledge to use against her, but Metallia outsmarted them, allowing a part of herself to be taken into the book, using it to corrupt part of the program, and then continuing her buisness. When She is defeated in season one her conciousness retreats to the part of her within the book and she waits for someone to trigger it. This would allow for the possibility of a scenario similar to near the end of As where the user manages to seperate from Metallia and the corrupted parts of the book and join the battle against them.
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