IRL: Fire loose in Our Lady’s Church in Paris

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IRL: Fire loose in Our Lady’s Church in Paris

Postby Té Rowan » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:14 pm

https://www.thelocal.fr/20190415/major-fire-at-paris-historic-notre-dame-cathedral

Looks like the Notre Dame in Paris is either severely damaged or possibly destroyed. Supreme bummer.
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Re: IRL: Fire loose in Our Lady’s Church in Paris

Postby Ellen Kuhfeld » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:17 pm

I saw the tallest spire crumbling on television. This is not good.
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Re: IRL: Fire loose in Our Lady’s Church in Paris

Postby Spokavriel » Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:22 pm

Notredame has come back from destruction before. One time it was reduced to the window wall and the bell towers. God willing the church will restore it again. The real losses here are irreplaceable artwork and any documents not archived elsewhere as well. The spire survived through many past times there was a partial destruction which is how it got so famous.
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Re: IRL: Fire loose in Our Lady’s Church in Paris

Postby Ellen Kuhfeld » Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:55 pm

One news article says the paintings and relics were saved. I mourn the stained glass.
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Re: IRL: Fire loose in Our Lady’s Church in Paris

Postby Spokavriel » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:50 pm

Less worry there 60% of the stained glass was off site for restoration work and I don't know if any was installed at the moment where the fire has been.
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Re: IRL: Fire loose in Our Lady’s Church in Paris

Postby Neko- » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:50 am

Where the fire has been... That's pretty much the whole thing: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/0 ... cathedral/

We'll have to see what the tally of damages and lost items are going to come to. Heard that atleast part of the stained-glass windows melted, or were atleast damaged. The whole oak roof from the 13th centure is gone, the spire (added in the 19th centure) is gone. Some copper statues that were part of the spire were just sent off to the Dordogne for restauration, so that seems saved.

Some priest also seems to have indicated that the art and relics are mostly in 'the vault', so most of that seems saved. Beyond that, those cathedrals were built with disaster in mind. So it's carcass is pretty sturdy. As it seems now that survived. But the damages are anyone's guess at the moment.

Fund got started to collect money for the rebuild already. One rich Frenchman already pledged 100 million to the efforts. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... notre-dame
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Re: IRL: Fire loose in Our Lady’s Church in Paris

Postby Spokavriel » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:45 am

I just hope they don't rush the restoration and do it right. Finding artisans to do the joinery and make it better than before without losing the artistry the fire consumed.
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Re: IRL: Fire loose in Our Lady’s Church in Paris

Postby Cheb » Sat Apr 20, 2019 5:24 am

And of course it was so hard to install gas or foam based fire suppression systems in that highly flammable national treasure...
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Re: IRL: Fire loose in Our Lady’s Church in Paris

Postby Spica75 » Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:23 am

Cheb wrote:And of course it was so hard to install gas or foam based fire suppression systems in that highly flammable national treasure...
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I saw news reports. It was slowly falling apart for years because of insufficient funding.


Yeah, although to be fair, the estimated cost of complete restorations(before the fire) was already heading towards astronomical scales, as in, the budget of Paris even if taken as a whole wouldn't even begin to be enough, which was why they started some more limited renovations recently. (heck, if the higher estimates on the costs were true, the French NATIONAL budget would be strained to pay for it)

I agree that fire suppression SHOULD have been an obvious thing. OTOH, i've seen the arguments against that elsewhere, as the conservationists absolutely hate even the idea of the work needed to fit those kind of stuff to buildings.
But better funding for upkeep and at least basic fire suppresion, really should have been. :(
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