Ranma trains with Akane - AKA: Another fanon trope is wrong.

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Re: Ranma trains with Akane - AKA: Another fanon trope is wr

Postby Spica75 » Mon Jan 01, 2018 1:44 am

Some things that we know for sure (if my memory serves me right), though: Ranma is never seen breaking bricks in the same manner as Akane, Akane's never shown to meditate like Ranma does every now and again, and Ranma once (during the rhythmic gymnastic story) said that the Saotome school specialized in mid-air combat.


Yeah, "mid-air combat" is something we definitely NEVER see even the slightest hint about from Akane.

All that's not irrefutable proof by any means, but it tips the scales toward the likelihood of the schools being different, even if not fundamentally.


Yup, common ancestry and close enough to probably work as complementary sides of a whole, but not same.

Also, one very simple and blatant indication, Ranma and Akane are supposed to marry to "unite the schools". That would be completely irrelevant if they practised the exact same thing.

Although my memory's not perfect, there were two grappling moves in the dogi story alone that I don't recall Ranma ever doing. (I'm sure he could do them if he wanted to, but that's an entirely different argument.) If that turns out to be true, it stands to reason that it suggests that her style might be different, if we assume it was Akane and not the dogi doing it.


Yes. And while especially drawn martial arts is difficult to see as it's supposed to be for real, it's definitely possible to find more examples of how they're drawn with their own distinct styles. Akane does things one way, Ranma do them in another, they overlap, but not enough to be the same.
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Re: Ranma trains with Akane - AKA: Another fanon trope is wr

Postby Pata Hikari » Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:55 am

Té Rowan wrote:/me looks at OP image.

Well, I get a rather different scene from that image: They are close together, but they are training separately while sharing training space. Why separately? They are training in two different things (chops v punches) and not assisting each other.

Because that's not what's the logical thing to get from that context. The context is Ranma and Akane training together. The only reason to assume that they're not trainign together is if your perspective has been bent by the fanon that they don't train together.

The entire point is that them training together is such an obvious thing that Takahashi never thought to make it a big deal the same way she didn't make them doing homework a big deal.
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Re: Ranma trains with Akane - AKA: Another fanon trope is wr

Postby Spica75 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:10 am

Pata Hikari wrote:Because that's not what's the logical thing to get from that context. The context is Ranma and Akane training together. The only reason to assume that they're not trainign together is if your perspective has been bent by the fanon that they don't train together.


No, the exact opposite. That picture in specific, blatantly contradicts you, it does not in any way support your claim.

It shows them sharing a training area, with their own parts of it, widely separated.
They are specifically shown to NOT face each other while training but rather their own individual training tools.
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Postby Pata Hikari » Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:00 pm

The fact that they're both training out at the same time means that they're training together. Your perspective has been warped by fanon to the point that actual canon is being dismissed and ignored.

Like, you do realize that martial arts practice is mostly singular activities? You practice forms, you do strength building exercises. The only direct interaction with another person is sparring. Which we've seen Ranma and Akane do as well. Ranma and Akane using different tools the dojo has doesn't mean they're training separately.
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Re: Ranma trains with Akane - AKA: Another fanon trope is wr

Postby Spica75 » Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:49 pm

Pata Hikari wrote:The fact that they're both training out at the same time means that they're training together. Your perspective has been warped by fanon to the point that actual canon is being dismissed and ignored.

Like, you do realize that martial arts practice is mostly singular activities? You practice forms, you do strength building exercises. The only direct interaction with another person is sparring. Which we've seen Ranma and Akane do as well. Ranma and Akane using different tools the dojo has doesn't mean they're training separately.


Having actively practiced martial arts for 15 years or so, i'm reasonably well aware how it works yes.

The fact that they're both training out at the same time means that they're training together.


No, that means they're sharing a training location. Which can mean just about anything, but as we are not shown barely even a hint of actual cooperative training, then they're not training together in a way that is relevant to martial arts, as in actively assisting each other to improve.

Like, you do realize that martial arts practice is mostly singular activities? You practice forms, you do strength building exercises. The only direct interaction with another person is sparring.


Wrong. Very very wrong. Unless you count practising moves on other people in slow motion as either sparring or forms. There's also the very basic "follow my lead", which is very common. Ranma and Akane do neither, showing that the apparent norm is that they train individually even if they share training space.

And strength exercises depends entirely on what martial art it is, the ones i practiced included no such thing at all, but a lot of stretching, speed and agility exercises.

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My "perspective" is one of "I don't really care either way". Show us the evidence instead of your apparently fanon claims and creative interpretations, because that's what it looks like.
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