Nabiki's evilness level

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How would you put Nabiki's evil level?

Poll ended at Tue Dec 25, 2012 12:00 am

Complete monster.
1
13%
10/10 on evil level.
0
No votes
9/10
0
No votes
8/10
1
13%
7/10
1
13%
6/10
1
13%
5/10
1
13%
Just a mean girl.
2
25%
Not actually evil, just misunderstood.
1
13%
Neutral.
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 8

Nabiki's evilness level

Postby Noy Telinú » Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:00 am

As discussed here Nabiki is pretty evil.

But HOW evil? How much good is in her?

The cases for evil:

1) the ten yen story. This included selling Ranma off as a slave. O_O
2) the playing house story. This included blackmail of false rape!
3) profiting on others misfortune attune to selling water in a desert.

Ssssssssss...

Now, she does seem to not actively do these things, just when it's opportune and easy.

How evil do YOU see Nabiki? Just a mean girl? Or a complete monster?
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Re: Nabiki's evilness level

Postby Crescent Pulsar S » Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:38 am

It's hard for me to say. Nabiki's character, like several others, becomes quite flanderized by the end of the series. The character in the beginning isn't quite the character at the end. For the most part, though, she doesn't actively go out of her way to set up the situations where she does the things she's infamous for all that often, and she mainly does it for money rather than for the sake or enjoyment of it. So, I suppose I'd go with "mean girl."

She just doesn't care if there are victims or casualties, though I wonder if it's because she's sure (or convinced, if you want to split hairs) that things will work out in the end. Particularly in regard to Ranma, which might be why she would be unconcerned about him (her, at the time) getting hauled away on a chain to pay the debt at the casino (and he did indeed get away from that). And she may have only bothered going as far as she did in the ten yen story because she was confident about winning the challenge and avoiding the bulk of the consequences, which included anyone who had a stake in her performance. Basically, the end justifies the means so long as others aren't too worse off than she is when all's said and done. If a character can handle what she can dish out, though, you can probably expect her to dish it. Tatewaki's an example of, "what one doesn't know won't hurt them," because of his stupidity, and Ranma's a victim of his own tolerance level (which is a lot).
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Re: Nabiki's evilness level

Postby ijp92 » Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:09 am

i went with 7 out of 10. Though I was strongly considering giving her an 8. (I'm still not sure).
My reasons include the flanderization of her character (hard to say though since it is canon), how she is more opportunisitc than active, and the fact that I also think she just doesn't consider any consequences as actual consequences.
For the last one, I feel that Nabiki could (and maybe does) easily excuse her actions by saying that they aren't really hurting anyone (Ranma could and did escape, how is selling pornographic/semi-pornographic photos of him actually hurting him, etc etc)
But at the same time, I don't really think she would be all that bothered if there were real consequences to her actions, unless they touched her personally. (oh wow Ranma, it took you over a month to escape the sex slave industry and get back home? well how was I supposed to know they would chloroform you and then ship you to Cambodia in chains? Well I'd offer you a cut of the profits but I already spent it.)
Unfortunately, all of these maybe's are in my head. So I can't really make an accurate decision using them.
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Re: Nabiki's evilness level

Postby Noy Telinú » Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:26 pm

Where I struggle with is that rape thing...

False rape claims are one of my biggest crime related things I hate. Rape is terrible and to cast in doubt claims due to false rape accusations sickens me.

And dealing with Nabiki is why I think Ranma is a pretty good guy. Most anti heroes would do something to Nabiki if she did that to them.
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Re: Nabiki's evilness level

Postby Crescent Pulsar S » Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:26 pm

I'm not all that convinced about there being an attempted rape or whatever. Ranma's left behind to pay for the debt ("you go to the debt," the guy holding the chain says -- whatever that means), and when Ranma returns Nabiki asks him if there had been, "any buyers." Is that really enough to suggest that Ranma's body was going to be sold for sex? I think that even Ranma would have gotten a lot more upset if that had been the case, but all he does is pant from exertion and is otherwise less fazed from that then some lesser issues that come up later. (By "lesser," I mean, "the debt went up yet again.")
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Re: Nabiki's evilness level

Postby Spica75 » Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:38 pm

I guess mean girl is the closest for me. Except she isn´t actually mean. She´s an egocentric with an empathic blindfold.
Her "evil" is nearly always unintentional, she´s reckless, thoughtless and unable to comprehend that her actions always WILL lead to indirect consequences.

I would rather say that she has the potential to become seriously evil. Nice or good however, i would most certainly not call her.
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Re: Nabiki's evilness level

Postby Noy Telinú » Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:18 am

I still think it's really evil to try and claim false rape.

Or try to use it. Damn her blackmail is J Edgar Hoover like. Not is scale or number, but in seer dirt on people who should be able to kill them.
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