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Is Genma the villain of Ranma 1/2?

Poll ended at Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:57 pm

Strongly agree.
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18%
Somewhat agree.
3
18%
Neither agree or disagree.
3
18%
Disagree somewhat.
2
12%
Strongly disagree.
3
18%
Potato.
3
18%
 
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Re: Genma the villain of Ranma 1/2?

Postby Noy Telinú » Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:36 pm

While I agree that Nabiki is EVIL, I don't agree that she's THE villain. More like a sidequest evil villain.
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Re: Genma the villain of Ranma 1/2?

Postby PCHeintz72 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:10 pm

Noy Telinú wrote:While I agree that Nabiki is EVIL, I don't agree that she's THE villain. More like a sidequest evil villain.

Sorry. Nabiki is hardly perfect, but no way will I even contemplate the thought of her being evil.

Nabiki is polarized in fan fiction... from her being the poor breeadwinner to her being the ultimate evil... few are in between, neither are IMO correct.
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Re: Genma the villain of Ranma 1/2?

Postby Spokavriel » Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:38 pm

Nabiki being the bread winner is pure fannon. Soun still has a paid position on the City council. While there are episodes that show them in financial straits Nabiki doesn't exactly go out and do much about it. Remember the cow eyed guy who came along to train at the Tendo Dojo? He gave them a 100lb (Estimate) sack of rice and was doing work around the house to pay for it.
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Re: Genma the villain of Ranma 1/2?

Postby ijp92 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:46 pm

PCHeintz72 wrote:Nabiki is polarized in fan fiction... from her being the poor breeadwinner to her being the ultimate evil... few are in between, neither are IMO correct.

the problem with that is that the "ultimate evil" fics give her to much credit. Where-in she is the ultimate puppet master and can call in a favor for anything and everything.
They add to much to her list of crimes and abilities.

Her actual crimes/acts of wrong-doing are numerous enough though.
off the top of my head there is:
taking and selling pornographic photos/images without permission (on an international scale to boot!)
actively drumming up demand for those photos
framing Ranma for rape/attempted rape
selling Ranma as a sex-slave
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Re: Genma the villain of Ranma 1/2?

Postby Spokavriel » Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:16 pm

Where do you get pornographic from? Or International on the photos?

Person she sells photos to = Kuno. Again He's already been demanding she just insists he pays more. Show me where she sold to anyone else.

I'd like to see where that Rape one came from which manga or anime episode please.

And back to the 10 yen competition. Which I agree is the closest to a pure evil instead of just selfish and opportunistic I have seen of her. So where are all your other claims supported?
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Re: Genma the villain of Ranma 1/2?

Postby Noy Telinú » Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:48 pm

The photos might be softcore at best, and it is only to Kuno (that we know of).

The selling of Ranma is as follows
Nabiki also indifferently framed him for assault and rape as an eternal blackmail source, until he destroyed the 'evidence'.[73] When she cheerfully ran up a huge gambling debt during her battle with Kinnosuke Kasha-Oh, she also casually sold a playboy bunny clad Ranma-chan, dragged away by a neck-chain, to a casino to help pay off her debts, and was completely blasé/at best mildly curious after the latter managed to escape from his captors.


From the Ranma wiki.

http://ranma.wikia.com/wiki/Nabiki_Tendo
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Re: Genma the villain of Ranma 1/2?

Postby Spokavriel » Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:42 pm

So once again on Nabiki the only proof of Evil outside of selling photos to Kuno is the 10 yen battle. And that has no evidence of Rape accusations.
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Re: Genma the villain of Ranma 1/2?

Postby Noy Telinú » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:31 pm

The rape accusations are done in Ranma 35 Japanese 33 English chapter 5 when Nabiki records a fake rape scene that she plans to use against him until it's destroyed.

It's the chapter where they are home alone with Ranma accidental destroying her ticket.
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Re: Genma the villain of Ranma 1/2?

Postby ijp92 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:59 pm

same chapter has Nabiki selling handkerchief with a topless girl-Ranma around the world.
here's the page:
http://www.anymanga.com/ranma/035/005/007/
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Re: Genma the villain of Ranma 1/2?

Postby Noy Telinú » Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:01 am

Yeah, I have that book.

That's pretty evil if you ask me. Especially since it would be illegal in some countries. (underage)
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Re: Genma the villain of Ranma 1/2?

Postby Spokavriel » Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:30 am

You do realize there are a few differences between indecent and pornographic correct?
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Re: Genma the villain of Ranma 1/2?

Postby Ellen Kuhfeld » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:34 pm

Spokavriel wrote: You do realize there are a few differences between indecent and pornographic correct?

And there are quite a few differences between consensual and non-consensual. But what does this have to do with Genma?
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Re: Genma the villain of Ranma 1/2?

Postby Konsaki » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:48 pm

Ellen Kuhfeld wrote:And there are quite a few differences between consensual and non-consensual. But what does this have to do with Genma?
He's the one running the Pedo-Porno ring, obviously! :P
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Re: Genma the villain of Ranma 1/2?

Postby Ellen Kuhfeld » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:17 pm

I have generated a truly obscene reply to that, but have decided not to post it.
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Re: Genma the villain of Ranma 1/2?

Postby Konsaki » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:49 pm

Ellen Kuhfeld wrote:I have generated a truly obscene reply to that, but have decided not to post it.
I was hoping that by using the emoticon, it would successfully convey that I was joking. :|
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