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Postby RobustPhysics » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:51 pm

I was just re-reading the manga and figured I'd post about some things that are canon, but usually don't make it to fan fiction. Or just some interesting little tidbits that most people (or at least myself) forget about. Or just things about Ranma most people don't think about. Anyways, it's a compilation of things from chapter 1 to chapter 47, and maybe somebody will be surprised about some things.

Not that it matters much, since I consider canon to be more guidelines than anything when it comes to fan fiction. As long as it doesn't divert from canon TOO much, it's fine. Likewise if it was done on purpose, like AUs or changing stuff they disagree with (to a point anyways).

Akane seemed understanding and about to think it's okay that Ranma saw her in the bath. If only he hadn't said "and I'm better built to boot, too!" and I imagine Akane would have been a lot more understanding.
https://imgur.com/a/wFBcr

Akane does try to protect female Ranma's modesty, at least during the start.
https://imgur.com/a/7eDHd

Akane can (kind of) admit that Ranma looks good in cute clothing
https://imgur.com/a/pAUhC

Tendo sisters sometime forgetting that Ranma is a boy
https://imgur.com/a/9a039

Well known, but Ranma definitely cares about his clothes.
https://imgur.com/a/LEEOD

Ranma does have some sense of female modesty (or Akane just trained him well)
https://imgur.com/a/5HjD4

The anime exaggerates the above
https://i.gyazo.com/dedf08210742ccc3820 ... fcb84c.mp4

Kasumi drops things when surprised
https://imgur.com/a/naCEH

And probably over-reacts sometimes
https://imgur.com/a/U8RgJ

Akane does like it when Ranma compliments her
https://imgur.com/a/YEHLU

...Even if it is really out of character for Ranma
https://imgur.com/a/FHmyQ

Ranma and Akane do have a playful relationship
https://imgur.com/a/svW3b

Ranma is just a bit of a narcissist. Just a little.
https://imgur.com/a/65IKh

Genma just leaves a naked female Ranma and naked, strange boy in the bathroom alone
https://imgur.com/a/xdJDO

Akane gropes Ranma. And Ranma, well...(see below)
https://imgur.com/a/6wqKB

...I can't be the only one who finds his reaction interesting? (Episode 10)
https://i.gyazo.com/11044a652897013c2f0 ... 34beef.mp4

Ranma doesn't actually promise Ryoga to keep his curse a secret, he just thinks it to himself in front of the dog he mistakes for Ryoga. So Ranma willingly keeps Ryoga's curse a secret (although he certainly is willing to blackmail Ryoga with it).
https://imgur.com/a/gHkzI

Actually, when Ranma finds out Ryoga goes right to yelling at Ranma. And it seems like Ranma is about to tell Akane, but is actually jealous or something so doesn't.
https://imgur.com/a/a0uU4

Ranma doesn't actually get food completely for free. Rather, he gets EXTRA food for free
https://imgur.com/a/Wrm36

Ranma earlier said he didn't want to fight girls. But I think he just didn't want to fight Akane (or maybe he doesn't want to fight girls as a guy). Here he is attacking back at Kodachi on their first meeting.
https://imgur.com/a/YxcSA

Akane does admit her shortcomings sometimes (for context, this is right after she fails - badly - at rhythmic gymnastics)
https://imgur.com/a/xisKB

Akane IS willing to be taught...but Ranma just never offers, and actually makes fun of Akane often when she trains.
https://imgur.com/a/3dCsI

Sometimes people say the Tendo school/Akane is based on ground fighting...But Akane is pretty acrobatic, and can jump quite high from a laying down position.
https://imgur.com/a/z5Rh9

On that note, Akane also has good reflexes and is pretty skilled in her own right.
https://imgur.com/a/PpfZ0

When it comes to crying girls, Ranma is definitely, well...Akane sums it up nicely here. Fanon usually gets this right though.
https://imgur.com/a/SYSGW

Kuno implies Kodachi has had previous love interests.
https://imgur.com/a/hvyr9

Akane actually does improve at Rhythmic Gymnastics over time.
https://imgur.com/a/U2zjs

But Ranma is still such as sarcastic jerk. That's what makes him so lovable though.
https://imgur.com/a/WCodO

Seems like Ranma is actually willing to help Akane practice, dunno if he would have actually attacked her though.
https://imgur.com/a/YN28k

Buuut, martial arts skills aside, Akane can be a bit of a klutz.
https://imgur.com/a/n1gFS

Ranma doesn't protest about wearing girls clothes as much as I remembered him to.
https://imgur.com/a/kHkgi

Akane does complement Ranma on his ability...and Ranma sure does love to brag, even when he really should focus elsewhere :p
https://imgur.com/a/xaz4p

Ranma isn't too good with all nighters. It's a surprise he won against Kodachi.
https://imgur.com/a/7QVvK

Unless it's life or death (i.e. Nodoka), Ranma sure doesn't mind telling people he's Ranma Saotome as a girl.
https://imgur.com/a/aouPm

That said, Furinkan High has pretty dense students.
https://imgur.com/a/Ynfsm

Ranma is...pretty gullible.
https://imgur.com/a/46anh

So I guess Ranma doesn't mind fighting girls...he would just rather not beat the hell out of somebody unless they're a guy.
https://imgur.com/a/dQRu3

Akane has a reputation for being easily angered, but that's not always true. Even when Ranma insults her she certainly doesn't overreact.
https://imgur.com/a/rmOqr

Ranma does seem willing to drop his masculinity whenever it's convenient. Usually whenever he's embarrassed about something (like eating ice cream). I'm sure you can analyze this even more, i.e. he certain does cry/complain a lot.
https://imgur.com/a/hO1Sn

Akane visibly holding hands with Ranma and helping him. Also (female) Ranma/Akane moment.
https://imgur.com/a/mxgQW

Cute dorks. Ranma sure is confident in all things "martial" even when he sucks. He acts like some interpretations of fanon Akane.
https://imgur.com/a/2AvnV

Ranma panicking and crying out for Akane to help him.
https://imgur.com/a/LTRlL

As mentioned earlier, Ranma does cry (despite fanon saying he never does).
https://imgur.com/a/AW1LR

Ranma cares about his first kiss. Also Kasumi kind of has a mean streak.
https://imgur.com/a/ZaOyD

Ranma can be pretty melodramatic sometimes. Reminds me of Ryoga.
https://imgur.com/a/AmqOY

Ranma and Akane sure do have a lot of sexual tension. Surprising their drama lasted so long.
https://imgur.com/a/QrcAf

To go with above...Akane was actually going to allow Ranma to kiss her. Too bad Ranma is, well, Ranma.
https://imgur.com/a/mm5fQ

Seriously I could make a whole post just about these two dorks. If it wasn't for the family, their first kiss may have been here.
https://imgur.com/a/D7rnB

Ranma possibly acknowledging Akane's skill. Says that together they are invincible.
https://imgur.com/a/E8YME

Charlotte is kind of Ranma's second kiss?
https://imgur.com/a/JraUX

Ranma eventually learns to skate, but Ryoga actually never learns even by the end of the match.
https://imgur.com/a/xAT0X

Ranma promised to give up on Akane if he fell in the water before Ryoga. Ranma fell in the water before Ryoga. So he doesn't always keep his word (not to mention this shows he doesn't treat Akane as a prize like Ryoga kinda does).
https://imgur.com/a/LEQei

Akane is strong enough to throw a chunk of ice at Ranma and Ryoga...really hard. Her strength is nothing to laugh at. Also, she hits both Ranma AND Ryoga. So she's not always defending Ryoga and letting him get off scott free like fanon suggests.
https://imgur.com/a/SV0h4

Ranma dove into the water to save Akane with Ryoga...but allowed Ryoga and P-Chan to take all of the credit.
https://imgur.com/a/0UnKM

It's not certain if Ranma actually beat Shampoo in one kick. It just skips to the end of the fight, and since Ranma is the one telling the story, I wouldn't be surprised if he made it sound like he beat her easily. Or Shampoo is just tired, and/or I don't want to admit the village champion in a female centric village was beaten so easily :p
https://imgur.com/a/38APh

Akane blocked an attack from Shampoo's weapon with her bare hands.
https://imgur.com/a/PRZQp

Ranma didn't mind being kissed by Shampoo at first. He was just kind of..."huh". But definitely didn't act like he hated it.
https://imgur.com/a/hrkl0

Genma and Shampoo actually get along fairly well.
https://imgur.com/a/D9iGS

Intimate scene where Akane wraps a towel around female Ranma.
https://imgur.com/a/7oTpG
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Re: Interesting stuff in canon

Postby Spica75 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:03 pm

Akane gropes Ranma. And Ranma, well...(see below)


Not groping, she's exploiting a weakness to get him to, something i don't remember, shut up or stop or something.

Genma just leaves a naked female Ranma and naked, strange boy in the bathroom alone


Father of the year right? :P


Ranma earlier said he didn't want to fight girls. But I think he just didn't want to fight Akane (or maybe he doesn't want to fight girls as a guy). Here he is attacking back at Kodachi on their first meeting.


He's rather sexist about it in several places, but then at the same time in several other places he has absolutely no problem with it, so kinda ambigious or maybe he's just flip-flop-y.

Akane does admit her shortcomings sometimes (for context, this is right after she fails - badly - at rhythmic gymnastics)


Oh yes, as long as she's not getting taunted about it or something, she tends to be pretty good about that kind of thing, with some exceptions.


Akane IS willing to be taught...but Ranma just never offers, and actually makes fun of Akane often when she trains.


And some people fail to understand why she gets angry at him?


Sometimes people say the Tendo school/Akane is based on ground fighting...But Akane is pretty acrobatic, and can jump quite high from a laying down position.


Her style is definitely far more "earthbound" than Ranma's, she's still one of her universe's absurd level martial artists.

On that note, Akane also has good reflexes and is pretty skilled in her own right.


Oh YES. I find it sad and weird every time a story just dismisses her as poor or even "fake".

If she was put into the real world, there's probably no martial artist that could defeat her, and actually, there's probably no 5 martial artists that could defeat her even together.


Akane actually does improve at Rhythmic Gymnastics over time.


:lol:
Oh, that's a good one, i'd forgotten that.


That said, Furinkan High has pretty dense students.


Nah, it's expectations. It's amazing how people can make assumptions based on what they think is the truth.

For comparison, when i was a kid, for some reason i was sometimes mistaken for a girl, and when i gave my name, some people instead of going "oops oh, he's a BOY", they instead went "oh that's a funny name for a girl"...
And seriously, it's amazing how just being polite can make people mistake your gender. :P

Akane has a reputation for being easily angered, but that's not always true. Even when Ranma insults her she certainly doesn't overreact.


:lol:
She's amazingly steady a lot of the time.

Ranma cares about his first kiss. Also Kasumi kind of has a mean streak.


I wouldn't call it a mean streak exactly, but she's neither toothless nor oblivious as some like to portray her.


Akane blocked an attack from Shampoo's weapon with her bare hands.


Well damn, i'd totally missed that one. That is actually seriously impressive considering how much force Shampoo tend to throw around.

Genma and Shampoo actually get along fairly well.


Which is just totally weird!



Anyway, many good points made.
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Re: Interesting stuff in canon

Postby Ellen Kuhfeld » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:09 am

RobustPhysics wrote:Charlotte is kind of Ranma's second kiss?

A very good post, and one that could kick off quite a few re-revisionist stories. But in the interest of keeping it even more accurate, that kiss is with Azusa Shiratori. She's the one that captured P-chan and re-named him "Charlotte". If you're looking for improbabilities, Ranma kissing P-chan would be right near the head of the list.
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Re: Interesting stuff in canon

Postby Sunshine Temple » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:51 pm

Nice collection.

Is good to go back to the source and see what the characters are like.
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Re: Interesting stuff in canon

Postby windstorm » Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:14 pm

The characters in Ranma really depend a lot of your personal interpretation. With Ranma and Akane in particular there are a lot of different ways you can look at them and view their actions (and decide if they are justified or not). Also most of the cast characters have their various high and low points in the series which gives you a pretty wide range of what could be considered "in canon" actions; Ryouga can go from basically being Ranma's friend and asking for help finding his house one day, to trying to "kill" Ranma the next day.

Since Ranma 1/2 is a slap-stick humour series and a lot doesn't need to be taken seriously, you can also put less weight on certain events to determine the character's personalities if you are trying to make a more serious story with it


Akane IS willing to be taught...but Ranma just never offers, and actually makes fun of Akane often when she trains.
https://imgur.com/a/3dCsI


(This is in ch 17) That may have been partly due to the fact that Akane was asked specifically to participate for a competition. Also while Ranma didn't offer to train her, Akane didn't really ask him to either...

Akane kind of jumped the gun by agreeing to participate in a sport she doesn't know how to do or have the skills for. It may have been because the gymnastics girls were counting on her and she may have wanted to live up to their image of her. It might have been a better to level with them and admit she really doesn't know how to do gymnastics rather than get their hopes up. Akane tried somewhat half-heatedly to say she didn't get the sport, but didn't admit it she can't do it outright or try and seriously convince the girls otherwise.

Ranma's sarcastic reaction makes some sense considering Akane willingly went in over her head, even if it is mean. At the end Ranma is also partly calling out Ryouga for complimenting Akane on her "progress" even though she still is getting tied up. Ranma also knows Ryouga's "actual" motive for training Akane and that it isn't just pure altruism.

(One a side note this actually does fit with some fanon interpretation about Akane willing getting in over her head a lot or challenging opponents she probably can't beat. Fanon interpretation is definitely more extreme most of the time though. In this case at least Akane's motives are pretty much just wanting to live up to the image other people have of her or proving she's not a clumsy -- and unfeminine -- girl.)
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Re: Interesting stuff in canon

Postby Spica75 » Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:12 am

Akane kind of jumped the gun by agreeing to participate in a sport she doesn't know how to do or have the skills for. It may have been because the gymnastics girls were counting on her and she may have wanted to live up to their image of her. It might have been a better to level with them and admit she really doesn't know how to do gymnastics rather than get their hopes up. Akane tried somewhat half-heatedly to say she didn't get the sport, but didn't admit it she can't do it outright or try and seriously convince the girls otherwise.


I think she basically "did a Ranma" there, essentially the "sport" in question had something to do with martial arts, ergo she could do it.

And yes, if Akane is anything, good friend definitely is it.

One a side note this actually does fit with some fanon interpretation about Akane willing getting in over her head a lot or challenging opponents she probably can't beat.


Well, for honesty's sake, so does Ranma. Difference being that he tends to win the "rematch".
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Re: Interesting stuff in canon

Postby toushin » Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:42 pm

RobustPhysics wrote:Akane seemed understanding and about to think it's okay that Ranma saw her in the bath. If only he hadn't said "and I'm better built to boot, too!" and I imagine Akane would have been a lot more understanding.
https://imgur.com/a/wFBcr



What part of Akane’s behavior seemed understanding especially considering the way the Tendo's and Akane were treating him basically arguing about not wanting him, treating him like an object, and insulting him. She called him a freak and pervert while absolving herself of responsibility for walking in on him. What Ranma said was in direct retaliation to Akane’s comments you just can’t ignore that
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Re: Interesting stuff in canon

Postby Pata Hikari » Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:01 am

toushin wrote:What part of Akane’s behavior seemed understanding especially considering the way the Tendo's and Akane were treating him basically arguing about not wanting him, treating him like an object, and insulting him. She called him a freak and pervert while absolving herself of responsibility for walking in on him. What Ranma said was in direct retaliation to Akane’s comments you just can’t ignore that
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https://www.mangareader.net/ranma-12/1/51

1) Akane never called Ranma a freak.
2) It is different than when a girl sees a boy.
3) Ranma's statement is, as directly stated by the other cast members and the author thanks to the power by slapstick karma, to be worse than Akane calling him a "pervert" in a rush of embarrassment.
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Re: Interesting stuff in canon

Postby RobustPhysics » Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:47 am

I read a few more chapters, from volume 17 to volume 19. If anybody is curious, click on the link for all the pictures and commentary. Only thing surprising was Kasumi insulting Akane (calling her uncute and stuff), as well as Ranma trying to be mean to Ukyo.

Oh, and Ranma went on an actual date with Gosunkugi. Sure, magic was involved, but still :p

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