Crescent Pulsar S wrote:Yeah, one of the cats mentioned an x-ray source when they were talking about the planet sucking in gas and light like a black hole.
As far as I can tell, "Death Phantom" wasn't revealed until later, in relation to Nemesis. First, it was learned that Wiseman was the planet Nemesis, then that Wiseman was Death Phantom, and each time there was a reveal there was also a bit of an explanation about it, so it's not surprising that it can be problematic to keep the names straight in relation to when and what perspective we're talking about.
Mind you, I'm still using the old Tokyopop translation, not the new one from Kodansha or one from online scanlators, so some details may vary.
Maximara wrote:The orbit made it impossible to capture an image; nothing here about it being invisible in any way.
Ok here is where things go wonky. If the planet's orbit is "unpredictable" then how can you expect it to be anywhere? It could be like dwarf planet Pluto and out of the plane all the other planets are on. It could be like a comet coming close to the sun every so many decades or centuries. Or if you want to get really wild it could be 90 degrees from the planetary plane coming close to the sun every once every few centuries.
The volume of a sphere is 4/3 pi r^3. Assuming Nemesis has a comet like orbit that brings it near Mercury (0.3 AUs) to out to the outer edge of the Oort cloud (20,000 AU AUs) that puts Nemesis being anywhere in a sphere with a volume of 84,000 cubit AUs. So if Nemesis' orbit is so unpredictable how did they even know where in that mammoth sphere to even look?
Things continue to go pear shape. They knew this planet was the source of "large negative energy" so they send a "extremely severer criminal there". What could possibly go...oh Doom Phantom, ouch. According to Our Liches Are Different at TV tropes 'Sailor Moon villain Wiseman/Death Phantom is heavily related to the Lich, being a powerful sorcerer with only glimpses of a skull to his true face. Taken even further in the manga when you learn the planet Nemesis itself is his Soul Jar. ' Real great genius we got here...NOT.
But they compounded this stupidity by then declaring Nemesis "a forbidden planet" for centuries.
Ok again things don't add up. Why were they looking to Nemesis for its great energy?
Ok, unlike the anime the Black Moon clan in the manga are not decedents of people exiled to Nemesis centuries ago. But you have rebel faction faction out in space that is out kill you but where could they get...oh that planet we were looking at as an energy source. Uh oops?
Ok here we have the "Mad Dictator Phantom" or Doom Phantom here and later were told when the people were just starting to forget again the Black Moon clan showed up with the same mark as the Doom Phantom had.
I'm sorry but if Neo Queen Serneity is stupid in the anime she and her friends are total morons in the manga.
Crescent Pulsar S wrote:Well, we use what's available. I think it's too much to overlook something unless it's obvious that too much of it is inaccurate. And in specific cases where the mistake is obvious, like when the translator used million instead of billion for the beginning of the solar system's timeline, we can make our own adjustments instead of being obligated to use the translation as it is.
Also, there's still the Kodansha translation. I wouldn't mind seeing that and comparing the differences between it and Tokyopop's version.
Crescent Pulsar S wrote:I don't want to ask too much of you, so how about one part for now. Let's see... Okay, let's see if you can locate it based on Tokyopop's arrangement: volume five, chapter name "King Endymion," page 119. It's basically where King Endymion first shows them Nemesis.
Crescent Pulsar S wrote:Yeah, there's a big enough difference, although mostly through wording things differently. I wonder if the distinction between "unpredictable" and "incalculable" makes a difference... I mean, I suppose you can still predict it, just without the use of numbers. Right?
There are a few more details, too. One of them was one of the things that I had proposed to explain their behavior, since here they say they were trying to make use of the planet, and over a long period of time. Since they couldn't, it wasn't a waste to put the planet to use as a prison until they could get back around to it and trying again.
Crescent Pulsar S wrote:Yeah, there's a big enough difference, although mostly through wording things differently. I wonder if the distinction between "unpredictable" and "incalculable" makes a difference... I mean, I suppose you can still predict it, just without the use of numbers. Right?
LawOhki wrote:Pretty much both mean that it's impossible to predict where it will be. Only that it can be found at it's current location. Once it's found then they just had to keep track of where it was at.
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