Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Crescent Pulsar S » Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:03 am

Not exactly, in terms of playing it safe. My advice is to not assume anything one way or the other. Personally, I prefer to leave things as possibilities. If you're set on doing something, and believability matters, you'll do whatever you feel is worth the effort.

That said, characters like Rei and Hotaru should be the easy ones to portray as either bisexual or homosexual (though those who prefer anime Rei, or only know said version, would likely disagree), as they've either shown no interest in men, a dislike for them, or possibly some attraction to the same sex.

On the opposite end of the spectrum would be Minako and Makoto, and at this point I doubt Minako has to be explained. Makoto is probably the most mother-like/mother-to-be out of all of the senshi despite her tomboyishness: she's a real homebody, likes to cook, take care of the house, go shopping and likes cute things. The kind of future that she looks forward to is getting married and owning a bakery or flower shop (or was it both?).

Many of the others can feasibly be considered or made into bisexuals, as they have shown attraction for the opposite sex but haven't pursued anything serious (like Ami and Setsuna). Depending on how you look at it, Usagi's either easy to peg or the most confusing. Considering her devotion despite her wandering eyes, I think it's safe to say that even a bisexual relationship would be very unlikely unless she wasn't already chained to someone.
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Ellen Kuhfeld » Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:00 am

When it comes to sexuality, I'd figure Ami as the Inner most likely to be lesbian. (We won't even discuss the Outers, they're all perverts, enigmatic, or too young to decide.) In the S season of the anime, Makoto had such a crush on Haruka that the rest of the Inners were wondering if she were batting for the other team. It probably was akogare, but it'd be a decent arguing point if you wanted to declare her bi. Usagi is such a love bunny I can see her going with any of the senshi -- but it'd be affection, not lust. Minako would jump anyone, but she'd much prefer they be male. And from the anime, I don't see Rei with the hots for anyone but Usagi or Mamoru. Let's just say she loves her sovereigns.
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Spica75 » Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:14 pm

Noy Telinú wrote:Alright, let's get these out there.

Michiru Bi or Lesbian in a lesbian relationship.

Ami? What do you think is hers?

Minako you said is super straight.

Rei in the manga is likely a lesbian.

Makoto most likely straight due to sempai, could be lying to herself, though.

Haruka is lesbian.

Setsuna maybe bi. Living forever will do that.

And you said Hotaru is most likely to be bi.

Is this accurate?


Lesbian Rei is complete fanon for all i know.
Haruka is the only one i would say is definitely lesbian.
I would say Michiru is strongly leaning towards completely lesbian but isn´t clearcut ( or probably don´t even have an interest in beaing clearcut categorised about it, she has found her "mate" and that´s it ).
Ami, Minako and Makoto are all clearly showed to be interested in males. Though i think Minako could be persuaded to "make an exception".
Hotaru isn´t really showing any inclination(and she´s young and has had what you might call a "troubled life" pretty much removing a chance to do so).
Setsuna seems more to lack prejudice in the matter than have a determined inclination.

Basically breaking the "absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence" rule in your above summary.


as they've either shown no interest in men, a dislike for them, or possibly some attraction to the same sex.

Dislike for the opposite sex does not mean being homosexual. Just as attraction to same sex doesn´t have to mean that. Attraction isn´t a single dimension.


When it comes to sexuality, I'd figure Ami as the Inner most likely to be lesbian.

Say what? :shock:

Usagi is such a love bunny I can see her going with any of the senshi -- but it'd be affection, not lust. Minako would jump anyone, but she'd much prefer they be male.

Those i wont disagree with at least to some extent.
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Noy Telinú » Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:48 pm

I was just guessing what would be likely. Not anything set in stone. It's a debate.

My knowledge of this isn't as extensive as you guys, so I'll listen to you. That said, there isn't much agreement here on Ami or Makoto.

Funny, that those two are paired up together a lot.
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Crescent Pulsar S » Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:52 pm

They might be paired often enough because Minako and Rei tend to be paired together. Particularly if the relationships don't extend beyond the sailor senshi themselves. And it's not uncommon for fan-fiction authors to take one instance of something and consider it imperial evidence despite the lack of logic or even an existing contradiction. For instance, at the end of the manga, Mercury and Jupiter are killed together, and then Venus and Mars are killed together. And out of the inner senshi, Rei and Minako have the most dynamic relationship, so it probably makes the most sense to pair them up. And that leaves...

There are probably all sorts of reasons for why the arrangements end up being what they are, though.

Spica75 wrote:Dislike for the opposite sex does not mean being homosexual. Just as attraction to same sex doesn´t have to mean that. Attraction isn´t a single dimension.

When did I ever even imply that? (I even made a point of it before, about how girls in anime and manga can show admiration for other girls without it being sexual.) I thought I made it pretty clear at the beginning of my last post to not come to any conclusion based just on that as established fact, and that it was about working with reader believability first and foremost.

For the two characters in question, I said it's more believable for them to be bisexual or homosexual because -- unlike the other characters -- there really isn't anything in (manga) canon that someone could point to and outright contradict the idea. If they say, "that's not canon," you can counter with, "neither is your disagreement to the contrary."

In Hotaru's case, while being overly attached to Chibi-Usa isn't necessarily a sign of bisexuality or homosexuality, and heterosexually is usually assumed in general, there's nothing that explicitly supports the third and there's at least something that could suggest the first two. In Rei's case it's a bit more straightforward: if she's not interested in men, her options are to be celibate, find company in the arms of another woman, or change her mind about the opposite sex at some point. As an author you have these choices, and if you're looking for some lesbian action then the choice to pick out of those available becomes clear.

This is by no means a one-dimensional process. If it were only about what the author wanted, then yes, and we would likely help perpetuate the creation of stories based on faulty logic, ignorance, and blinding desire. But there's also what canon provides (or leaves open), and what the audience expects. And while one could argue that Hotaru should be heterosexual because that's what the audience expects, one of an author's many possible jobs is to surprise and/or impress the reader, so they're left thinking that the author knows what they're doing. Not necessarily to the point where they accept something as being fact, but acceptable enough within the context because there's no good, rational argument to assail it with.
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Noy Telinú » Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:43 pm

Hmmm...

Ok, let's do the list in lesbian to straight likelihood of happening. (except Usagi since she's not in this.)

Haruka (confirmed lesbian)
Michiru (in a lesbian relationship)
Setsuna (old enough to not care, plus lives with a lesbian couple and she's lonely enough)
Rei manga (no interest in men but could be asexual)

So far so good?

Guessing from here on out.

Hotaru (no intrest in boys, but young, but veeeerrry into Chibiusa... But only 12... Which is starting puberty level)
Ami (shows intrest to boys... But three were starlights. Not to mention the pairing with Makoto has to have some canon grain of truth)
Makoto (looking for sempai, but that thing with Ami, plus could be in denial since the mysterious guy "looks like" nearly every guy)
Minako (goes after a ton of boys, depressed on the whole love thing, guys she falls for end up with others gets along with Rei I've heard and is blonde. Oh and has a love me chain used on GIRL Youma)

Is that accurate or not? Debate! Its going to be useful so I can have the pairings teasing and maybe done.
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Crescent Pulsar S » Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:12 pm

Wait, what's that about the chain and girl youma? O_o;

Setsuna: there's not much to support not caring and being lonely. Well, after her death and reincarnation, anyway. And her characterization isn't exactly the same between the anime and the manga.

Rei: simply "no interest in men" will do. Anything beyond that should be asserted and explained by fan-fiction.

Ami: if it helps, her ideal type of guy is someone like Einstein. She said so herself. :P She also places her studies above finding someone to have a relationship with.

Makoto: the "every attractive guy looks like my sempai" thing is just in the anime. Motoki fills that role in the manga as a guy who reminded her of her sempai, and that's it. There's really nothing to support any denial in regard to her sexuality, or the grain of truth regarding a relationship with Ami.

When all's said and done, though, any of the senshi can be portrayed as being bisexual with a little work. It's the miracle of plot and character development! *_*
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Noy Telinú » Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:26 pm

Well, that works.

And I'm being literal "Love me chain" she wants them to love her! >_< :P

So... are you saying Pluto WASN'T lonely before dying? O_o
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Crescent Pulsar S » Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:47 pm

Lonely? If so, she'd long gotten used to the fact and doesn't let it affect her. She did have a yearning to fight with the other senshi instead of standing guard while they were in danger, so there is that. And she certainly hadn't become bitter, considering how much she cared about Chibi-Usa.

After her reincarnation, though, it's pretty clear that she's not lonely. Or, at least, that she's not dissatisfied with things.

Well, see for yourself:

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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Noy Telinú » Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:07 pm

As I've said, I didn't read the manga. All my info has been from here or wikis.
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Crescent Pulsar S » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:08 pm

You must get the manga. There is no excuse now that Sailor Moon's being printed again (and for Sailor V, for the first time).

Well, unless you're poor like me... U_U;
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Noy Telinú » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:13 pm

Crescent Pulsar S wrote:You must get the manga. There is no excuse now that Sailor Moon's being printed again (and for Sailor V, for the first time).

Well, unless you're poor like me... U_U;


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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Crescent Pulsar S » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:49 pm

Last one of what? :O
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Noy Telinú » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:52 pm

Not that, I am poor...

*sigh*

Anyway...

Why are the attacks in english anyway?
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Re: Ranma/Sailor moon fusion help version 2

Postby Crescent Pulsar S » Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:20 pm

Dunno. Are they? I can't read Japanese, so it's all English for me, anyway. Hopefully someone who has it in Japanese can tell you. If it is, though, perhaps it's like how common it is for magic spells in English to be spoken in Latin or something.

Y'know, 'cause apparently different languages have this sort of power and people are lucky that they're not flinging around magic when they use it so carelessly. :P

(Well, even though I'm poor, and I can't really afford it, I still get source material when I can. It's infinitely better than what anyone can tell another person. That way what you figure out for yourself is untainted. It's all you, baby! :wink: )
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