Anime, Scifi, Fantasy Fan and Original Fiction
Spokavriel wrote: IF they guarded over Earth why wasn't it a part of the Silver Millenium?
And I can't see how I was confusing in what I said earlier. So rather than causing further confusion I'm leaving it.
Knight of L-sama wrote:I don't really see it actually. Yes they remain Usagi's protectors into the future but that doesn't automatically preclude them having their own personal lives. The only time we really see them is during the Black Moon invasion which would be abnormal conditions, especially since they're at one end of a pre-destination paradox and knew it was coming. For all we know they could spend most of their time off doing their own thing and only get together on special occasions.
Then you must have read it in fan-fiction, right? Well, I can't say that I recall such a vow in the manga; and I have no idea if it was ever said in the anime.
But Makoto, for instance, seemed to have a strong desire to get married and have a bakery/be a florist (can't remember which).
Perhaps it was just selfishness on her part, but Usagi's mother didn't reincarnate the senshi for the sole purpose of being a senshi in their next life, too. And by selfish, I mean that it was probably only meant for her daughter. I can't remember.
You bring up a good point. Maybe that is so. But, maybe not. Technically, yes, they should have expected it. But they didn't seem to. More importantly, though, is that the outer senshi, for the most part, weren't present. The only one we saw was Pluto, who didn't seem to have a life outside of her duty. One can only assume that the outer senshi returned to their prior duty, as well. (Even though their absence was probably due to the author not having a reason to think that far ahead, yet; or something like that.)
But, no, I wouldn't disregard the possibility. It may depend on whether you're pessimistic or optimistic, on what one would think would be the most likely reality. At least I, personally, would hope that Usagi wouldn't run things like her mother did.
Comartemis wrote:I've heard that too, but not from a fanfic. If I recall correctly, it was mentioned during the SuperS manga when Rei was undergoing a trial of character at the hands of one of her enemies. I think she was being tempted to lay down her duty and go back to being a normal person and she rejected the idea outright.
I sincerely doubt that being a Senshi precludes getting married at some point, though if you believe the "immortal senshi" theory they'd better have a way to share the wealth if they don't want to inevitably become widows at some point.
I don't think Serenity's intentions can be discerned one way or the other, though I seem to recall her wishing for their happiness in her last moments in the anime.
SM was one of those series that wasn't supposed to progress past the first season but wound up being so popular that more material was created to meet demand. I doubt Naoko had the Outers planned out except maybe as vague ideas when she was making R, but in-series their absences could be explained in any number of ways; maybe they were killed fending off the initial assault, or maybe they were just critically wounded and spent the Future Arc recovering somewhere off-screen.
That being said, what's wrong with the way QS ran things?
What does that have to do with chastity? XD
She already had the inner senshi acting as Usagi's guards when they were children (even if they were still in training, in general), likely meaning little to no childhood.
Saturn was sealed away, so she had no life at all.
I'm just no fan of people being treated like tools, and nothing more.
Comartemis wrote:It's a symbol of loyalty, presumably. I'd need to check the manga again but I don't have the relevant volumes available to me.
Actually I think that's pretty common in real royalty, not something QS came up with. If I've got my facts straight, body doubles and body guards have often been raised alongside the people they're supposed to protect in order to give the guard a personal interest in protecting their charge.
Further, I find it highly doubtful that Queen Serenity would have had the Senshi brought up The Spartan Way when she's trying to help them form attachments to her daughter. It seems to me that the best way to go about making bodyguards the Senshi way would be to give them a few years as normal kids during which they bond as friends before introducing combat training and such. While Serenity is taking lessons on politics or spellcasting or whatever the Senshi are going through combat training. They were never ordinary kids to begin with, not even the Princess, so it's not really logical to expect them to have "childhoods" as we would think of them.
It's been a while since I've read the manga or seen the anime versions of this part of the story, but wasn't Saturn sealed before Serenity even came into power?
I can see the logic in that argument, but from what we've seen of the past Senshi, none of them really had any issues with their roles (aside from Saturn, possibly, but I don't think she ever gives her opinions on Serenity's decisions in the manga or the anime). I agree that it's generally a bad idea to use people as tools, but if the wishes of those people coincide with their assigned roles, is it really such a bad thing?
Crescent Pulsar wrote:I don't know if I should feel worse if they were all raised to live to be nothing but what they became.
The modern Senshi, at the very least, have chosen by their own wills to follow Usagi. While I can't recall whether the others ever had this choice presented to them, Ami had the option of leaving the team and pursuing her dreams of becoming a doctor early in the second season and decided she would rather stay with the Senshi. The others all had lives of their own as well, and at any given moment they could have thrown in the towel and said "I'm done with this" and Usagi would have let them go because she cares more about her friends than about herself. Seen in that light, Crystal Tokyo and the roles of the Senshi as NQS's bodyguards isn't some destined fate that was plotted out in advance (by Pluto, if you believe the conspiracy theorists), but the end result of the choices the Senshi made throughout the series.
Crescent Pulsar wrote:More importantly, though, is that the outer senshi, for the most part, weren't present. The only one we saw was Pluto, who didn't seem to have a life outside of her duty. One can only assume that the outer senshi returned to their prior duty, as well. (Even though their absence was probably due to the author not having a reason to think that far ahead, yet; or something like that.)
Crescent Pulsar wrote:They were already in their senshi outfits and protective of Usagi when she was a baby. It's more likely that Queen Serenity hard-wired it into their brains what they were supposed to live for, and I think it's possible since those with Sailor Crystals are destined to protect what they represent, not a specific person.
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