Pluto and her voodoo

[Lightspire]

Maybe this is a silly question, but just HOW DOES she do that voodoo that she does so well? Is she warned by herself from the future? Does she look into the time gates like a magic mirror? Is she psychic!? I see numeorus explanations in fanfiction, and it frustrates me, not only because it's differently used each time, but also because I don't really know the true answer! I'm partial to the whole "she talks to herself" thing, personally....

[Zwzn]

Maybe this is a silly question, but just HOW DOES she do that voodoo that she does so well? Is she warned by herself from the future? Does she look into the time gates like a magic mirror? Is she psychic!? I see numeorus explanations in fanfiction, and it frustrates me, not only because it's differently used each time, but also because I don't really know the true answer! I'm partial to the whole "she talks to herself" thing, personally....

The Pluto in the anime is from Crystal Tokyo. She is always sent back to ensure that C.T. comes to pass. It is never actually shown or said how Pluto knows what to do, but we know Neo Queen Serenity sends her back in time on missions.
At the end of S we see Pluto having a little talk to Chibi-Usa who at the time is in the past. Pluto on the other hand is at the time gates, and is sending a projection of herself to C.U.. They seem to be talking in real time. So Pluto seems to have some way of viewing the past.
Just before the battle at the planetarium in S Pluto is shown to be able to tranfer Rei's vision to the other inners. This ability implies that she can read minds and insert thoughts into people's minds.
There is also the ability to stop time, and the Dead Sream attack. She also seems to be able to spin her staff in order to block attacks.
She also has a sharp mind and seems willing to do what ever she has to to get the job done.
Pluto also seems to be able to summon the talismens for Uranus and Neptune.

[Lightspire]

How interesting. If Setsuna is just from the future, than where does she come from? That would be an interesting story to pan out... For example, many fanfictions have her get replaced, but none really show her not be of the current erra. Either she was, or she was just reborn before the others... Hmmmm....

[Zwzn]

If Setsuna is just from the future, than where does she come from?

The Pluto we see in the anime seems to comes from Crystal Tokyo like Chibi-Usa. Pluto makes it clear that there are other possibilities, but she is there to ensure Crystal Tokyo. Pluto also never seems to say that C.T. is the best possibility.
We know so little about her in the anime, and given her abilities there may not have ever been ever a Pluto other then the one from Crystal Tokyo. Luna is not the best source of information, and the outers don't really go into detail about Queen Serenity's kingdom. Strangely the information given that says Pluto is an outer seems to imply that Saturn is not an inner or an outer Senshi in the anime to me.

[WG_Writer]

Actually in the Manga Sailor Pluto nearly killed Sailor Moon, not knowing she was the Queen's past self. Sailor Pluto only existed in the future, probably having the time gates created in CT (Their creation is just a guess) It was Chibi-usa that saved Usagi from being killed. and refered to the crystal that moon had as being more powerful then the one in CT. Pluto corrected her saying that in any age the crystal would have equal power.
She appeared in two other scenes in the manga including her death scene.
(my knowledge is incomplete here and the information was hard to find)
For that matter Saturn did not exist back in the Silver millenium either.

[Zwzn]

The manga and anime are very different.

Actually in the Manga Sailor Pluto nearly killed Sailor Moon, not knowing she was the Queen's past self. Sailor Pluto only existed in the future, probably having the time gates created in CT (Their creation is just a guess) It was Chibi-usa that saved Usagi from being killed. and refered to the crystal that moon had as being more powerful then the one in CT. Pluto corrected her saying that in any age the crystal would have equal power.
She appeared in two other scenes in the manga including her death scene.
(my knowledge is incomplete here and the information was hard to find)

In the anime R seems to be planed by the Crystal Tokyo royals to me. Pluto even seems to be in on it. I think Pluto would have shot a dead scream if she was actually trying to kill Sailor Moon in the anime.

For that matter Saturn did not exist back in the Silver millenium either.

Saturn seemed to be known of by Uranus and Neptune in the elder Serenity's kingdom in the anime. It just seems like it was all rumors. Like they never actually met, and they only had old stories to go on, and those stories where told by people who wanted her to look like a planet killing monster.

[Benjamin A. Oliver]

In fanfics, we give her a lot more credit and power than she has in any of the series.
She's slightly ahead of the game, but she's taken down just as easily as the others when it comes down to it, whether against the Deathbusters, Neherenia, or Galaxia. She's not really that mysterious and doesn't appear to have planned that far ahead.
In fanfics, though... it's fun to play around and make her an enigmatic, all-powerful, time-traveling, and all-time-viewing planner and plotter. She's a lot more interesting that way.

[Lightspire]

But couldn't it be refreshing to see not an all-knowing type person, or even someone PRETENDING to be all-knowing, and just observe them winging it to the best of their abilities? I think it'd be great for Setsuna to show up in a crossover, her plan 'all figured out', and then have her see Ranma, and think to herself, "holy crap! Who's the new girl!?"
Either way, this new information is going to completely change how I introduce Ranma's past life... I mean, was there ONLY a pluto from the future, or just Setsuna as Pluto? I've tried looking it up on the web, but jsut can't find the answers that I'm looking for.

[Benjamin A. Oliver]

In the manga, there's two Plutos.
One Pluto was from the future, had guarded the Gate of Time for an eternity ever since before Silver Millennium times, then died in the present.
The other Pluto, right after that, was born in the present, and awakened in her mid/early twenties during an attack in a lab, I believe. This one looked like she was reborn somehow.
In the anime, there is one Pluto, who was born way before anything ever remembered... She was the original Sailor Pluto from the past, and there has been no other. She did sacrifice herself once to freeze time for a bit, but she was brought back off-scene in an unnamed fashion.
What does it all mean? I don't know, it was never adequately explained. Hence, open to interpretation. However you want to do it will probably work.

[Lightspire]

Ok, that sounds more like it fits with everything. Kinda. Yet, if she's from the future, then dies in the present, and is REBORN in the present, how does that work? Is it the whole chicken and egg thing? yeesh, to quote Back to the Future, "This is heavy..."

[Benjamin A. Oliver]

It's not explained, yeah. I'd assume that it's just another one of those weird time things.
Imagine that a main character just died. A beloved character that, for sure, died. Now through some quirk of time, that person was reborn about twenty years earlier. Suddenly she sneaks up behind them just as they finish the funeral.
"No, we just buried you!!"
"That's right, but I'm back! I've been reborn!!"
Something like that. Suppose reincarnation wasn't linear in a temporal sense and you'll see how it could happen.

[Lightspire]

Ah, ok, cool. I think I get that. And I think that Setsuna really IS just playing it by ear, hoping nobody catches on! (Or at least assuming no-one will...) She may be able to look back in time, but her future self is killed in the present, and then reborn, THAT incarnation may not have all of the knowledge that the previous one did! This works. This works out dandily! Thank you.

[Zwzn]

In fanfics, we give her a lot more credit and power than she has in any of the series.

Most fan fics I see have her not know everything.

She's slightly ahead of the game, but she's taken down just as easily as the others when it comes down to it, whether against the Deathbusters, Neherenia, or Galaxia. She's not really that mysterious and doesn't appear to have planned that far ahead.

I personallly think in the anime that she always knows just what she has to do to ensure Crystal Tokyo.
Anime Pluto is really mysterious because we know so little about her, and what she does off screen.
We do know she goes back in time on missions to ensure Crystal Tokyo, but we don't know what she does on them or how many she has gone on. We don't even have any real idea where she comes from, but to me at least it seems implier that she always comes from Crystal Tokyo.

In fanfics, though... it's fun to play around and make her an enigmatic, all-powerful, time-traveling, and all-time-viewing planner and plotter. She's a lot more interesting that way.

In the anime it seems clear to me that she doesn't know everything, and most fics I come across do not make her out to be a all-powerful, time-traveling, and all-time-viewing planner and plotter.

[FOG3]

In the manga, there's two Plutos.
One Pluto was from the future, had guarded the Gate of Time for an eternity ever since before Silver Millennium times, then died in the present.
The other Pluto, right after that, was born in the present, and awakened in her mid/early twenties during an attack in a lab, I believe. This one looked like she was reborn somehow.

Actually she dies initiating a time stop to prevent Prince Diamond from bringing the two Ginzuishou together, which would have caused bad things to happen. This also happens to knock Small Lady out of Dark Lady mode, and allow her to finally transform.
We see the other one being awakened in the past literally by a voice, IIRC she was studying some specimen that for all intents and purposes would have otherwise eaten her soul. Later this one will comment that Neo-Queen Serenity granted her desire to for all intents and purposes actually be allowed to do something for once. The other Soldiers of the Outer Planets around this time make comments about how she's different.
The fan Pluto is almost 180 degrees from the manga one. She's pretty much in the dark most of the time actually. She literally can't even perceive what's going on outside her "cage." Plus she isn't exactly allowed to go anywhere or do anything, certainly not time travel.
Of course, I'm not sure I've ever seen the manga characters truly used. Of course, I suppose when you have so little detail, and they are basically DBZ level it shouldn't be that surprising. The higher ups are literally planet busting class by the second arc, and it just kind of goes up from there. They can make space, and actually do about the same damage fire has Sailor Sun doing by around midpoint of the first arc, and people routinely are getting zapped with lethal firepower.

[Zwzn]

Actually she dies initiating a time stop to prevent Prince Diamond from bringing the two Ginzuishou together, which would have caused bad things to happen. This also happens to knock Small Lady out of Dark Lady mode, and allow her to finally transform.
We see the other one being awakened in the past literally by a voice, IIRC she was studying some specimen that for all intents and purposes would have otherwise eaten her soul. Later this one will comment that Neo-Queen Serenity granted her desire to for all intents and purposes actually be allowed to do something for once. The other Soldiers of the Outer Planets around this time make comments about how she's different.
The fan Pluto is almost 180 degrees from the manga one. She's pretty much in the dark most of the time actually. She literally can't even perceive what's going on outside her "cage." Plus she isn't exactly allowed to go anywhere or do anything, certainly not time travel.
Of course, I'm not sure I've ever seen the manga characters truly used. Of course, I suppose when you have so little detail, and they are basically DBZ level it shouldn't be that surprising. The higher ups are literally planet busting class by the second arc, and it just kind of goes up from there. They can make space, and actually do about the same damage fire has Sailor Sun doing by around midpoint of the first arc, and people routinely are getting zapped with lethal firepower.

It jsut goes to show you how different the Anime and Manga are. She is portrayed as knowing at least most of what is going on, and manipulatiing everyone to bring about the Crystal Tokyo that the inners went to.