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A Certain Arrogant Horse

Postby toushin » Fri Sep 02, 2016 3:29 pm

i recently really got into Toaru Majutsu no Index but every Ranma crossover i find are usually like 1 or 2 chapters at most 6. however everyone has including the ones on this site have pages and pages of discussions on how such a universe would work, where Ranma's respective abilities lie, anger on weather or not Ranma will replace Touma, ect. i really would like to see such a crossover go somewhere so after shifting through all the reviews and forums i came up with this based off of everything i read

http://ranmafanon.wikia.com/wiki/Catego ... gant_Horse

what do you think
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Re: A Certain Arrogant Horse

Postby Spica75 » Fri Sep 02, 2016 10:29 pm

Overall i can just say that i would like to see more stories focused on the Railgun universe.

There are a number of possibilities for this arc Mugino Shizuri could become another love interest introduced (she could be Ranma’s new Kodachi).


Dear goodness, you´re evil! Kodachi is bad enough, at least she doesn´t have a literal BFG to play with... And while she´s not as delusional as Kodachi, she may be more crazy. I totally approve of the idea. :twisted:

It provides the opportunity for the two to fight multiple times. Getting them to fight wouldn’t be that hard Ranma would see blood the moment he finds about the Radio Noise Project and Accelerator is told that if a normal person finds out about it he would have to shut them up permanently.


Caution here, Ranma is at VERY high risk to get killed facing off against Accelerator. >90% of Ranma´s abilities are not just useless, but more dangerous to himself if used in such a fight. Should work if Ranma gets to see Accelerator in a fight before this happens, so he at least knows what to NOT use.

And as an addition to that, even overpowered Ranma is going to have major problems dealing with the level 5s and many level 4s. They simply do not attack in ways he has any effective defense against.
Misaka could roast him easily, Mugino could have him do an excellent swiss cheese impression the instant she uses a card and Ranma isn´t extremely fast to get out of the way(dodging her beams is impossible, dodging her aim can be done but is very very hard), he probably has zero resistance to Shokuhou´s mindfuckery, Kuroko could kill him the instant that she wanted to(he would need to know exactly how to avoid getting something teleported inside of him to have a chance) etc etc...

and integrate emotions to the clones that would make the people involved in the experiments reevaluate the clones' humanity.


Do the "controllers" actually care about that?

If the silicon cards work on ki blast


It would be extremely difficult to justify that.

Since it didn’t happen in the original series Ranma could be the one to help Kiyama find her car.


Remember, the more times you have Ranma replace Touma in a situation, the fewer times you have Touma interact with Mikoto, IF you want those two into some sort of relationship, that could be a bit problematic(to say the least).

Also, mostly just having Ranma replace Touma isn´t likely to work very well i think. Extremely different character and personality, totally different abilities, Touma can survive things that would kill Ranma instantly AND vice versa, and the risk of making the story look like "same thing different names".

It´s probably much better to have him added into the mix rather than replacing anyone specific. And his presence almost have to have an effect on the story(overarching plots and results not dependant on exact events may stay the same, but events and details should scatter to the winds of change), he´s simply too much into interfering as well has having a very noticeable degree of ability and power to interfere with.

This would also involve him into the graviton bombing incident.


Does Ranma have any way of surviving a (too) close encounter with one of the stronger graviton bombs? They don´t function like normal bombs, and even normal bombs are one of the things Ranma isn´t exactly superb at dealing with.

This arc also introduces Capacity Down, a sound file that disrupts esper brain functions, making it very difficult for them to use their power effectively, or do much of anything at all.


A very questionable introduction in my view. It´s an "uber plot device" that at least in theory should be relatively easy to spread and massproduce, and be a HUGE target for anyone wanting to deal with espers. Use with great care. Personally i would try to make it more situational one way or another, so that just playing a sound file doesn´t automatically disrupt any esper completely.

(keep in mind that as a protagonist in the Toaru Majutsu no Index universe Ranma is legally obligated to have a harem)


:mrgreen:

Remember though, unless you change things(or i missrecall too much), he´s just 1-2 years older than the main quartet of girls, so there´s nothing preventing them from involvement if you really want him with "girls girls girls".

Finally since Gabriel rules over the symbol of water it could change the trigger or even trap or cure Ranma.


*giggles*

Ranma would feel extremely guilty about the sister’s he couldn’t save and might even offer to train them so that they could better defend themselves.


That, could be awesome. He also might not have to train more than a handful of them for enough experience to spread through their "network"...

what do you think


I would certainly like to see the idea become a story(or 3 ). Definitely workable. Definitely plausible.
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Re: A Certain Arrogant Horse

Postby toushin » Sat Nov 26, 2016 12:09 pm

Caution here, Ranma is at VERY high risk to get killed facing off against Accelerator. >90% of Ranma´s abilities are not just useless, but more dangerous to himself if used in such a fight. Should work if Ranma gets to see Accelerator in a fight before this happens, so he at least knows what to NOT use.

And as an addition to that, even overpowered Ranma is going to have major problems dealing with the level 5s and many level 4s. They simply do not attack in ways he has any effective defense against.
Misaka could roast him easily, Mugino could have him do an excellent swiss cheese impression the instant she uses a card and Ranma isn´t extremely fast to get out of the way(dodging her beams is impossible, dodging her aim can be done but is very very hard), he probably has zero resistance to Shokuhou´s mindfuckery, Kuroko could kill him the instant that she wanted to(he would need to know exactly how to avoid getting something teleported inside of him to have a chance) etc etc...



In every argument involving Ranma vs Accelerator the later is put into a category similar Saffron in that it would an all or nothing fight, but I put more in Herb’s category in that it would take multiple fights before Ranma figures out how to beat him. It is less that that Ranma is powerful enough to defeat him, but more that he is durable enough to survive.

It is true most of Ranma’s ability would be useless and any initial confrontation with them would end up with Ranma in the hospital he wouldn’t be in any risk of being killed. As stated Accelerated isn’t a sadist he doesn’t look for trouble the people he brutalizes all go after him not the other way around. So a combination of Ranma’s healing factor and Durability and the fact that Accelerator wouldn’t be going full out could be the deciding factor especially if you add in Heaven Canceller medical ability. Ranma would end up with at most a broken arm and some bruises.

There second fight would be were it really matter’s. Yes Accelerator is extremely powerful he has a number of weaknesses’ that Ranma could exploit. The easiest is that he can’t reflect something if he doesn’t know the correct vector equations for it. There is little difference between ki and magic. However while Magic is to complicated to be completely redirected a ki blast would be so basic that that it would be a complete unknown so Accelerator wouldn’t be able to completely redirected. Redirecting a vacuum blade would just funnel air into it resulting in a blast of air. While it would take some ingenuity (which isn’t hard for Ranma) a Hiryu shoten ha could also work as Accelerator as he can’t use his Aerokinesis if the wind is moving in an abnormal direction. There is also dividing his focus which is how Amai Ao was able to shoot him in the head. Finally Accelerator himself mentioned that suffocating him would work so maybe a variation of the Deep-Sea Demon Wrap. While Ranma beating Accelerator would still be far-fetched he would be able to put in a sizable dent in him and get away. Though since Accelerator would be far more willing to go all out in a second confrontation. It is a given that Ranma will end up seriously injured.

Finally the Kiseru/Fan Throw follows the same principles as Vector Manipulation in that it changes the magnitude and direction of an object to maneuver it in the desired way. So it is not implausible once Accelerator’s ability is explained to him (or he figures it out) to come up up with something similar to Kihara’s technique or even already have a technique and would just need to apply it offensively instead of defensively.

My consensus is that Ranma would be able to figure out a way to defeat Accelerator but by the time he does he would either be to injured to utilize it or there would no longer be a reason to fight him.



As for other level 5 that might not be as hard as you make it out to be yes if Mikoto went at him full power she could roast him easily but she’s not the type to go full out on the first strike and as shown with his fight with Rouge Ranma is durable enough survive a lightning strike even multiple ones and that was magically enhanced.

Mugino would probably be the easiest to deal with as she tends to underestimate people and rely heavily on her powers. In fact she had been defeated by a level 0 who unlike Touma had absolutely no powers or abilities multiple times. Even Sogiita he could probably handle given the guy’s fighting styles. The level 5’s who would really give Ranma trouble are Misaki and Kakine

Do the "controllers" actually care about that?


It’s more like Accelerator would care as the fact that the Sister’s were so emotionless was one of the ways he rationalized killing them because it allowed him to convince himself that they weren’t human. Them showing a little more emotions could possibly catch him off guard.
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Re: A Certain Arrogant Horse

Postby Spica75 » Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:25 am

Yes Accelerator is extremely powerful he has a number of weaknesses’ that Ranma could exploit. The easiest is that he can’t reflect something if he doesn’t know the correct vector equations for it. There is little difference between ki and magic. However while Magic is to complicated to be completely redirected a ki blast would be so basic that that it would be a complete unknown so Accelerator wouldn’t be able to completely redirected. Redirecting a vacuum blade would just funnel air into it resulting in a blast of air. While it would take some ingenuity (which isn’t hard for Ranma) a Hiryu shoten ha could also work as Accelerator as he can’t use his Aerokinesis if the wind is moving in an abnormal direction. There is also dividing his focus which is how Amai Ao was able to shoot him in the head. Finally Accelerator himself mentioned that suffocating him would work so maybe a variation of the Deep-Sea Demon Wrap.


There´s extremely few and far between things that he doesn´t know how to affect at all. Even just his autodeflect handles almost anything on its own.

If ki and magic was anything the like, someone in the Ranma-verse WOULD have figured out how to use ki to replicate magic, AFAIK, noone ever did or even thought it realistic.

I have severe doubts a ki-blast would do more than cause some puzzlement for Accelerator. It´s energy of a kind, and his ability works on energy without problem. Might not work perfectly, but feels unlikely to fail.

Vacuum blades may get a "return to sender" redirection rather than explode. Also, vacuum blades exploding is a blast of air, something his ability completely nullifies. Having them implode MIGHT in theory be able to exploit one of his weaknesses, but it´s uncertain.

"Accelerator as he can’t use his Aerokinesis if the wind is moving in an abnormal direction"? Ehm, where did you get that from? AFAIK, that´s simply not true. It will throw off his "aim" a bit(possibly even a lot), but it wont stop him in any way. Also, the amount of force needed to seriously throw him off is MASSIVE.

And a Hiryu shoten ha is potentially extremely dangerous for Ranma, because Accelerator WILL notice the setup looong before it can be activated. Also, there´s near zero chance for Ranma to get him to follow the proper setup "steps", Accelerator is NOT a martial artist and he doesn´t care the slightest about moving like such, he generally either stands still or goes straight ahead to attack.
He´s also generally a "cold and calculating bastard", trying to use him as the hotspot may not even work at all unless he´s got really worked up first. And for that to happen, Ranma needs to survive long enough to actually get him riled up(as in angry, excited probably doesn´t work). Probably much easier after he finds out he actually DO cares for something, but even then he might just laugh it off.

OTOH, if you use him post-nerf, sure then you have the time limit hampering him, problem with that however is that he´s likely to just make SURE he downs any enemies well before the time runs out, and that´s probably MUCH worse for Ranma as one of his main advantages is that he´s good at playing keep away until he figures out how to handle an opponent.


Divided focus certainly works, but seriously, how likely is it that he will need to do something on the level of a supercomputer just as he´s fighting Ranma? Zero probability that it will both be that kind of level AND something he cares enough about to actually do rather than kick someone´s ass.

Suffocating works of course... But, huge problem with that is that most ways to do it means FIRST getting into direct contact with Accelerator and that just isn´t going to work.
Deep sea demon wrap probably isn´t going to work, the vacuum part is only momentary and the rest of the effect is just a minor inconvenience to Accy. Several in quick succession should work to unsettle or mess with him but unlikely to do much more than that.
And doing several of them quickly, i doubt that Ranma even CAN do that.


In my view, the one thing that is most likely to work well is for Ranma to figure out the same thing one person in the anime uses against Accy, the "backwards punch" or whatever to call it, basically reversing a punch just as it comes in contact with Accy, exploiting his autodeflect to actually cause the hit instead of deflecting it. Although uncertain if there´s a simple counter for that.

Though since Accelerator would be far more willing to go all out in a second confrontation. It is a given that Ranma will end up seriously injured.


Remember, this is the guy who before running into a certain annoying little girl, had absolutely no qualms about killing. There´s a definite risk that someone who can hurt him, him going all out means dead opponent. And quite possibly "dead" as in "itty bitty pieces scattered far and wide over the countryside".

Finally the Kiseru/Fan Throw follows the same principles as Vector Manipulation


In the way that a bow and arrow uses the same principles as a battleship cannon maybe. Accelerator does not just redirect, he can add or remove forces almost freely. There´s very good reason he retains the #1 ranking even after his "brain surgery by bullet" nerf.

As for other level 5 that might not be as hard as you make it out to be yes if Mikoto went at him full power she could roast him easily but she’s not the type to go full out on the first strike and as shown with his fight with Rouge Ranma is durable enough survive a lightning strike even multiple ones and that was magically enhanced.


A lightning strike is nothing compared to what Misaka can do if she WANTS to. She could cause dozens of lightning strikes per second and still not be at her limit. Only reason people don´t die like flies facing a flamethrower around her is because she doesn´t want to kill. It´s noted that she can generate enough electricity to run a small city, for hours, before even beginning to tire.
A lightning strike is puny in comparison.

However, she can also see electricity perfectly(which is why she by default is an uber hacker) and her control of it is on the level where things like "nonconductive", "faraday cage" or "lightning rod" are completely useless, not even annoyances to her. Remember, she was capable of figuring out how to run her own nervesystem with her power, with only the sideeffect of becoming a walking taser.

She COULD do the same to OTHER people, effectively remote controlling them and electrocuting them at the same time...

Mugino would probably be the easiest to deal with as she tends to underestimate people and rely heavily on her powers.


Yes, but he´s dead the moment she actually hits him with anything. That´s the problem with her, her power is so freaking insanely destructive, remember, even just her mm-thin shield disintegrates metal instantly. It´s even outright stated as "effectively armourpiercing"(though a better translation is likely "armour IGNORING").

Even Sogiita he could probably handle given the guy’s fighting styles.


If it was just a matter of "normal" fighting, oh yes easily. Problem is Sogiita has a bag of tricks to add to the mix that would make some superheroes cry. His abilities are pretty much bullshit hax. >>>"Haratani Yabumi said to Kuroko, regarding Gunha's powers: "What you saw was all just an illusion. It would be better for your mental health if you think of it like that. Maybe...""<<<

The level 5’s who would really give Ranma trouble are Misaki and Kakine


Shokuhou if she was in any way serious would be instant loss for Ranma. She hi-jacks brains as a "ranged attack". And she does it to a level that is beyond belief.

ALL level 5s would be dangerous to him, it´s just that Mugino and Sogiita have psychological exploits that MAY be relatively easy for Ranma to use(although if he messes up and use them in reverse between the two, that would be a craptacular screwup instead, lol), and he MAY be able to figure out the exploits against Accelerator(i wouldn´t bet much on his survival long enough for that though).

It’s more like Accelerator would care as the fact that the Sister’s were so emotionless was one of the ways he rationalized killing them because it allowed him to convince himself that they weren’t human. Them showing a little more emotions could possibly catch him off guard.


Possibly. He rationalized it yes, but it wasn´t until midways in that "experiment" that he really started to get adverse to killing, his background showed a lot of people that almost certainly got killed(because they attacked him one way or another, usually with weapons(IIRC that also includes showing a tank as one of those "weapons"...)).
I was more referring to those setting things up though(ie "controllers"). Some of them would certainly react, but most would likely rationalise it away like they already did.
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Re: A Certain Arrogant Horse

Postby HopeSeiketsu » Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:40 am

you guys seem to be forgetting one simple thing, ranma just needs to get lucky ONCE with a feint or something similar where he pulls back just before impact. after all accel is kind of a glass cannon and one punch at a high speed reversed and accelerated would likely EASILY end the fight. given how fast ranma can throw a punch. it would DEFFINETLY hit harder then the brass nuckles from that one guy
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Re: A Certain Arrogant Horse

Postby Spica75 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:44 pm

HopeSeiketsu wrote:you guys seem to be forgetting one simple thing, ranma just needs to get lucky ONCE with a feint or something similar where he pulls back just before impact. after all accel is kind of a glass cannon and one punch at a high speed reversed and accelerated would likely EASILY end the fight. given how fast ranma can throw a punch. it would DEFFINETLY hit harder then the brass nuckles from that one guy


No, i mentioned the possibility of the "backwards punch" above, problem is that it is very contradictory on a conceptual level and also requires PERFECT timing. It´s NOT something that is likely to happen by chance.

Think about it, ten thousand Misaka clones died without figuring it out, and due to their network, it would only have taken ONE lucking out ONCE for the technique to propagate. And Misaka starts out smart, add the experience of thousands to that and still not ending up with that technique? Means it´s totally not going to happen that easily.

And calling Accy a glass cannon? :shock:
He can tank TANKS, literally, without even noticing. Yes, he has ONE vulnerability, that is hard to find and execute(although IF Ranma figures it out, he´s one of few that could manage it easily, but figuring it out wont be an easy matter).
Also, it has been strongly suggested that the "backwards punch" is a flaw in his "autodefence" rather than in his ability...
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Re: A Certain Arrogant Horse

Postby AxelTheBunny » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:40 pm

I think the main issue here is also that from what i understand of the railgun universe, most of the abilities are not something that would be easily countered. A lot of them also seem science based which creates a problem with the Ranma universe in general I don't think Ranma knows enough about science to be able to counter a lot of abilities within the railgun universe. Ranma is a genius when it comes to martial arts yes, but that type of knowledge doesnt exactly translate well to fields like science as easy as some fics might try to make people believe.
However considering that the people of the Ranma verse seem capable of violating scientific laws and the like out of nowhere, I can see that being an advantage to Ranma.

As for Accelerator...He might be able to bypass the redirection ability using the Umisenken, but I'm not sure on the logistics, as Im only going off the information from the wikia on his ability.

Ranma would probably not be capable of handling some of the bigshots of the series in head on confrontation, at least not for awhile. Still it isn't called "Anything Goes" for nothing. He'd probably have to use more trickery and be sneakier.

It'd be interesting. I personally like fics where Ranma has to be more clever, more indirect rather than a direct combatant.
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Re: A Certain Arrogant Horse

Postby Spica75 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:20 pm

most of the abilities are not something that would be easily countered.


Correct. The basic idea is that ability users literally push "mind over matter" to a ridiculous degree, essentially hacking the universe to rewrite it according to what they WANT it to be(in a limited but still insanely extreme way).

A lot of them also seem science based which creates a problem with the Ranma universe in general I don't think Ranma knows enough about science to be able to counter a lot of abilities within the railgun universe.


I don´t really think that is much of an issue, at least not mostly. Ranma would simply react and act based on the effects he can sense, if someone shoots a big beam of DOOM at him, he knows to get out of the way regardless if he has any understanding of how it happened.
More to the point however, there´s several KNOWN abilities that even in the Railgun universe is totally unknown in how they actually work. At least two of the Level 5s simply makes the universe run away crying the way they casually break reality.

Misaka has one of the least "freaky" abilities and even she can still do stuff that really really should not be possible, like using electromagnetism to affect nonmagnetic solids or fluids, simply by overpowering it to ridiculous levels, or make lightning totally ignore "the path of least resistance" etc..

So, considering that the espers can´t explain alot about their abilities, but are still perfectly capable of countering the effects, Ranma is pretty damn certain of being able to do the same. He doesn´t need to know HOW Kuroko can put nails INSIDE of him, near instantly from 50m away, he just needs to that she CAN and learn to dodge REAL FAST if she tries. Because even if she´s unlikely to use that to directly hurt him, she is very good at nailing people to the scenery with it. :mrgreen:

However considering that the people of the Ranma verse seem capable of violating scientific laws and the like out of nowhere, I can see that being an advantage to Ranma.


Same here, they will react to effects rather than try to understand what he´s doing. It MAY give him a bit of boost, but it´s likely not going to be a big thing.

As for Accelerator...He might be able to bypass the redirection ability using the Umisenken, but I'm not sure on the logistics, as Im only going off the information from the wikia on his ability.


Which part of umisenken? I can´t recall any that can bypass Accys ability at least? Remember that his ability works both automatically AND intentionally, and that he can effectively generate vectors rather than just changing them, up to a ridiculous limit(making a small skyscraper fly off is IIRC the most extreme example shown).

Ranma would probably not be capable of handling some of the bigshots of the series in head on confrontation, at least not for awhile. Still it isn't called "Anything Goes" for nothing. He'd probably have to use more trickery and be sneakier.


Yeah, if he can get information BEFORE ending up in a fight with them, he at least should have a chance against several, as long as they don´t get too serious.
Mugino he can defeat at least, her ability isn´t flexible enough to shut down someone like Ranma(as long as he avoids getting hit at least).

But Accelerator, well he can just do what he did against the teleporter, smack the ground and fill the area with broken glass from buildings around him, then use those to create a lethal zone around him. Or heck, he can just fly high enough to be out of range and bombard the ground with plasma... His ability is seriously broken overpowered. (try reading the worm fanfic "Acceleration" to see it taken to even more ridiculous levels, that i wouldn´t be surprised is still within Accy´s ability)
Misaka, if she doesn´t care about keeping people alive? She can just make a killzone about 50m radius around her, anything inside it electrocuted to "very crispy" levels, or she can make a storm around her of iron particles, offense and defense all in one. Anyone entering it would be torn apart in the blink of an eye.
Shokuhou, lol, she would just send someone else to kill whoever bothers her, and they wouldn´t even know they´re controlled by her or why they just stabbed/shot someone when they do. She´s SCARY.

It'd be interesting. I personally like fics where Ranma has to be more clever, more indirect rather than a direct combatant.


Agreed.
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Re: A Certain Arrogant Horse

Postby AxelTheBunny » Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:26 pm

lol what i meant is that it could be a thing where abilities might be more complicated than he understands and thus he could be caught offguard.


Which part of umisenken? I can´t recall any that can bypass Accys ability at least? Remember that his ability works both automatically AND intentionally, and that he can effectively generate vectors rather than just changing them, up to a ridiculous limit(making a small skyscraper fly off is IIRC the most extreme example shown).


Well the defensive ability seems mostly based off what he can perveive, and then what can be detected as a threat. so throwing an actual punch or one of his direct attacks might be rejected as it is a direct threat. However something like a pressure point might actually make it through, like i said I can't see a direct fight working in Ranma's favor. I can also see Ranma picking him out as the greatest threat if he were aware of possible confrontation which would allow him to surprise everyone. (and if he took out the top guy via a cheap shot he might be overestimated, which would be interesting if you went the other way with underpowered Ranma.)

But yes that's kinda what I was thinking... for alot of these people it'd be like dropping Ranma into Dragon Ball Z, he'd be underpowered and overall not nearly a threat. It'd make a fic a challenge without finding some way to put Ranma on the same level as the level 5s. As I said, I dont think Ranma would be capable of winning in a head on fight, I can see him using subterfuge or more guerilla tactics if he knew he'd need to take alot of these characters down. Particularly with the level 5s... who could probably insta-kill him.

Perhaps he has a beginning encounter where he's nearly uses and only manages to escape by taking the main characters off guard, possibly by his curse being triggered.

The mind over matter theme of the railgun universe would certainly clash with the Nerima methods of problem solving, so I can see Ranma falling back on different ways of dealing with issues regarding more powerful characters. Rather than a head on confrontation.
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Re: A Certain Arrogant Horse

Postby Spica75 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:25 pm

lol what i meant is that it could be a thing where abilities might be more complicated than he understands and thus he could be caught offguard.


Ok. I still think the "deal with effects rather than how its caused" can manage that, but it´s not impossible that it could mess things up extra.

Well the defensive ability seems mostly based off what he can perveive, and then what can be detected as a threat.


No. Not at all. It´s shown in his background that people have tried to kill him, repeatedly, in various excessive ways, including at long range with highpowered sniper rifle. The sniper died while he just went "huh?" and wondered what hit him. His autodefense bounces anything right back to where it came from regardless if he knows about it before it hits.

That autodefense is also the reason that backward punch thing has any chance of success, he can override it, but if he does he risks getting hit normally instead.

However something like a pressure point might actually make it through


Not unless he actively ALLOWS it. That´s his problem, it´s even why he´s albino, even the rays of the sun are bounced, he could quite possible have a citybuster nuke go off in touch range of him and not even be inconvenienced. Like i said, his ability is ridiculously overpowered bullshit.

It'd make a fic a challenge without finding some way to put Ranma on the same level as the level 5s.


Definitely. Funny thing though, his martial arts are insane enough that he would most likely be considered a level 3 or 4 as he is.
Just unfortunate in that his strengths are not so easy to use against highend espers.

As I said, I dont think Ranma would be capable of winning in a head on fight, I can see him using subterfuge or more guerilla tactics if he knew he'd need to take alot of these characters down. Particularly with the level 5s... who could probably insta-kill him.


Yeah, subterfuge would work against a lot of people, but Accelerator might not even notice if he tries something, Misaka has at least a hundred meter radius of "electric sense" that is a very good early warning ability. And together with her EM "shield" can block stuff reactively even if she couldn´t do that consciously. As long as she´s not "keeping it down" and trying to be her (mostly) friendly normal of course.

And there´s others, like Kinuhata Saiai, her offense armour would just "lolnope" most stuff Ranma is capable of(it´s basically a layer of extremely perfectly controlled nitrogen around her, easily far beyond bulletproof and allowing her to throw punches through inches of steel and agument herself other ways, while it also dampens any kind of indirect damage like getting thrown, and she carries canisters of nitrogen with her in case anyone tries to keep her in vacuum or something).

The mind over matter theme of the railgun universe would certainly clash with the Nerima methods of problem solving, so I can see Ranma falling back on different ways of dealing with issues regarding more powerful characters. Rather than a head on confrontation.


Yeah, it´s somewhat likely at least. But then again, on the other hand he is waaaayyy too "triggerhappy" if it looks like a "fun challenge".
Of course, i wouldn´t put it outside the realm of possibility of him consistently and thoroughly getting his ass handed to him a few times, and then in return make himself an esper just to get a 2nd round with a "better" outcome. :mrgreen:
He´s REALLY serious about MUST be the BEST. And probably by doing something weird or crazy. :P
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Re: A Certain Arrogant Horse

Postby AxelTheBunny » Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:23 pm

Not unless he actively ALLOWS it. That´s his problem, it´s even why he´s albino, even the rays of the sun are bounced, he could quite possible have a citybuster nuke go off in touch range of him and not even be inconvenienced. Like i said, his ability is ridiculously overpowered bullshit.


Ah, ive only been going off his wikia page, as I never got that far in Railgun or other series within that universe, just didn't have as much interest and was occupied by other series. Accel does seem a bit overpowered. And hmm then it's definitely alot like some other shonen series I've seen, kinda reminds me of the issues of a Ranma/deathnote story I've been working, where the issue is that Ranma is enough of a threat that the only thing that could pose a threat to him is the note itself.
It's essentially a "the only kill is overkill" situation. Ranma would be able to crush most but then the ones who could deal with him are all overpowered to the point where it would be simple to kill him.

Of course, i wouldn´t put it outside the realm of possibility of him consistently and thoroughly getting his ass handed to him a few times, and then in return make himself an esper just to get a 2nd round with a "better" outcome.

Kinda reminds me of a fic I read awhile ago where Ryoga got a few years in the DBZ universe and came back massively more powerful to the point Ranma was no longer a challenge at all for him to fight, Ranma became a magical girl in order to be able to compete with him, could be very amusing and it is something I can see him doing so following something like that could work, though that story was very much geared to comedy in the end.
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Re: A Certain Arrogant Horse

Postby HopeSeiketsu » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:32 pm

Of course, i wouldn´t put it outside the realm of possibility of him consistently and thoroughly getting his ass handed to him a few times, and then in return make himself an esper just to get a 2nd round with a "better" outcome.

Kinda reminds me of a fic I read awhile ago where Ryoga got a few years in the DBZ universe and came back massively more powerful to the point Ranma was no longer a challenge at all for him to fight, Ranma became a magical girl in order to be able to compete with him, could be very amusing and it is something I can see him doing so following something like that could work, though that story was very much geared to comedy in the end.[/quote]

that sounds famillar can i get a link, i should really start archiving stories. but this comp isnt in the best shape as it is so that can wait lol anyone have any suggestions on a good flash drive or external hardrive to try out. keen in mind that i use laptops almost exclusivly
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Re: A Certain Arrogant Horse

Postby AxelTheBunny » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:45 pm

I believe this was it, bit of a long one.

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/4378356/1/ ... ter-Ryouga

The essential idea is interesting though, perhaps tying another anime/manga peripherally into it that would allow Ranma to fight on the level with the level 5s in a similar manner to this. Though I'd imagine you are going for a bit less of an overtly comedic tone though...


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Re: A Certain Arrogant Horse

Postby HopeSeiketsu » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:01 pm

thanks, and as far as i am concerned long ones are good ones well so long as they aren't past 350k words that is a bit much, as i am fairly sure that would be about 700 pages in a book which is just right for me lol. also welcome to the forum :D
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Re: A Certain Arrogant Horse

Postby Spica75 » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:18 pm

Kinda reminds me of a fic I read awhile ago where Ryoga got a few years in the DBZ universe and came back massively more powerful to the point Ranma was no longer a challenge at all for him to fight, Ranma became a magical girl in order to be able to compete with him, could be very amusing and it is something I can see him doing so following something like that could work, though that story was very much geared to comedy in the end.


Aside from me detesting just about anything DB(Z), that sounds potentially hilarious, and thanks for the link. Will have to check it out.

The essential idea is interesting though, perhaps tying another anime/manga peripherally into it that would allow Ranma to fight on the level with the level 5s in a similar manner to this.


That is definitely an option. Downside is that it´s not easy to integrate a series with the kind of power needed.

I have a decent harddrive I use for gaming, Seagate was the brand I believe. I like it because It's portable, though I'm not much of a tech guy so I can't say much.


Personally avoiding Seagate. :P
Currently running a Crucial MX SSD myself, currently "best bang" for normal stuff, is probably the Samsung EVO drives. Corsair and Intel are also good, WD has recently started shipping their own, but they seem to good so far.
SanDisk, A-Data, Intenso and Transcend are ok AFAIK. I still avoid OCZ after their several year long chain of "less successful" drives.
Though i haven´t the faintest clue for portables so, meh...


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thanks, and as far as i am concerned long ones are good ones well so long as they aren't past 350k words that is a bit much, as i am fairly sure that would be about 700 pages in a book which is just right for me lol.


I just spent 5 days reading through a 850+k fic. Marvellously amusing crossover between Worm and the old Luna Varga anime. :mrgreen:

And you should probably at least look at DianeCastle´s "The Secret Return of Alex Mack", superduper mass crossover at over 1M words, using a whole bundle of old b-movies and making them look sane and good in context :shock: , no seriously, she made Godzilla and man-eating clams a reasonable addition to the story. :mrgreen:
The only bad part is that it feels like i want to reread it. Again. :twisted:

I prefer long fics, i´m sure that isn´t obvious? :wink:
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