New story on the works

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Re: New story on the works

Postby HibikiRed » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:17 pm

Wow Lawohki, I can't believe you are so hard a judge after so many successful stories in FF.net.

There are several fanfiction where Ranma is hated by most and even tossed on the street by even the Tendos. Mousse finds "her" and become acquainted like a couple. I went back to see that possibility and the story keeps rolling into hundreds of positive reviews. My point here is that Fanfiction highlights the impossible pairings and challenge the writers to explain how can those impossible situations can make or break a certain couple.

Heck, even Kuno and Ranma stories show successfully how welcome they become to many people. Akane beating into submission a weak Ranma are other tales very accepted so with all these demonstrations teach me that, no matter how twisted my view of a certain character, fanfiction will give me the right to displayed them that way without so much complaints.

Now. There is a reason why I want to duplicate Ranma's curse in my stories. I love Ranma as much as Ryoga, and by feeling that way, I consider utterly unfair that a proud male can "bend his hands" and accept defeat by accepting another man through his curse. When I create situations to make Ryoga part female is only to even the odds and respect Ranma equally.

You said, "You're basically saying that it's not Ryoga who is a good fit for Ranma but the girl curse itself" and I think. Isn't that the same reason as to Ranma not being a good fit for Ryoga, but the girl curse itself?" If you manage to read the long and boring stories I have written you may see that I make them equal, but there are certain scenes where both are males, and others where a female Ryoga still acts like his true male self, but it gets easier by being a girl. Same goes for a Ranma-chan who can keep her pride as a male when her love interest doesn't see her as a girl curse, but a whole person with both genders.

Mousse is 100% in love with Shampoo. That is a fact. All I am doing is hint a certain situation, but with a different goal. Hopefully chapter 3 should clear that a bit more as well as the reason how Nodoka Saotome works as a plot device through the story. In fact, let me post the next chapter on another thread. I am on chapter 5 right now, but I don't want to overwhelm the good guys checking my story with a mountain full of mistakenly written drafts.

That last point about the sexuality between Ryoga and Ranma-chan is something that transcends both the Anime and the Manga. The whole Koi rod of love would be more than enough to apply sensuality and even sexual desires between the two. Ryoga pulls Ranma's shirt to see the growing carp and what does she says?. . ."Oh!. I didn't know we were this far in our relationship." That pretty much speaks volumes from someone who despite being under a spell acts and speaks with a conscious mind.

The fiancee bit appears in the Manga as well, and to my shame, the different panels show Ryoga making out with Ranma to a point where the girl can't stop him unless she hit him with a wooden shoe on his head. Both are caught more than enough times in compromising situations during the Manga as well. From Ranma teaching the word Pig and getting glomped by him unconsciously to she not caring for her body while fighting Mousee and ending up naked not only from her chest, but her crotch as well.

All in all Rumiko Takahashi created many tense situations for most characters either in the Manga or indirectly on the Anime. In the end my take on my stories is for Ryoga to be happy and Ranma fits that criteria only if my hero Ranma Saotome is equally reciprocated as either male or female.
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Re: New story on the works

Postby LawOhki » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:57 pm

HibikiRed wrote:Wow Lawohki, I can't believe you are so hard a judge after so many successful stories in FF.net.

I'm always a hard judge of things.

There are several fanfiction where Ranma is hated by most and even tossed on the street by even the Tendos. Mousse finds "her" and become acquainted like a couple. I went back to see that possibility and the story keeps rolling into hundreds of positive reviews. My point here is that Fanfiction highlights the impossible pairings and challenge the writers to explain how can those impossible situations can make or break a certain couple.

Reviews? So what? If you're judging the quality of a story based on review count you're missing a lot. There are a disturbing amount of stories that are immensely popular even though they are complete garbage.

Many pairings are possible, but that requires that they be setup, and reasons given for them to exist for it to be in character and not just an author dictate.
Heck, even Kuno and Ranma stories show successfully how welcome they become to many people. Akane beating into submission a weak Ranma are other tales very accepted so with all these demonstrations teach me that, no matter how twisted my view of a certain character, fanfiction will give me the right to displayed them that way without so much complaints.

Um, posting things for public consumption isn't exactly a right, nor does that come with any free pass on not getting complaints.

Now. There is a reason why I want to duplicate Ranma's curse in my stories. I love Ranma as much as Ryoga, and by feeling that way, I consider utterly unfair that a proud male can "bend his hands" and accept defeat by accepting another man through his curse. When I create situations to make Ryoga part female is only to even the odds and respect Ranma equally.

Ranma would not be lesser for deciding to pursue a man as a man or if he decided to do it as a woman. The curse does not make him something less nor does giving Ryoga the same curse take from him.

You said, "You're basically saying that it's not Ryoga who is a good fit for Ranma but the girl curse itself" and I think. Isn't that the same reason as to Ranma not being a good fit for Ryoga, but the girl curse itself?" If you manage to read the long and boring stories I have written you may see that I make them equal, but there are certain scenes where both are males, and others where a female Ryoga still acts like his true male self, but it gets easier by being a girl. Same goes for a Ranma-chan who can keep her pride as a male when her love interest doesn't see her as a girl curse, but a whole person with both genders.

Your problem with this focus isn't "making them equal" it's that you feel that making them both less then men is required.

That last point about the sexuality between Ryoga and Ranma-chan is something that transcends both the Anime and the Manga. The whole Koi rod of love would be more than enough to apply sensuality and even sexual desires between the two. Ryoga pulls Ranma's shirt to see the growing carp and what does she says?. . ."Oh!. I didn't know we were this far in our relationship." That pretty much speaks volumes from someone who despite being under a spell acts and speaks with a conscious mind.

Ranma is being magically mind controlled. There is no applying what he did while under that to any normal actions.

The fiancee bit appears in the Manga as well, and to my shame, the different panels show Ryoga making out with Ranma to a point where the girl can't stop him unless she hit him with a wooden shoe on his head. Both are caught more than enough times in compromising situations during the Manga as well. From Ranma teaching the word Pig and getting glomped by him unconsciously to she not caring for her body while fighting Mousee and ending up naked not only from her chest, but her crotch as well.

If you mean during the Ukyo introduction in book 9, Ryoga is shown trying to get some kind of handsy, considering his normal actions probably a very aggressive hug resulting in Ranma knocking him out when he pulled off the wig. Nothing else happens. Past that I do not remember any other time where Ranma was Ryoga's "fiancee." On top of that there are very few instances of them being in sexually compromising positions through the entire manga.
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Re: New story on the works

Postby Spica75 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:15 pm

Reviews? So what? If you're judging the quality of a story based on review count you're missing a lot. There are a disturbing amount of stories that are immensely popular even though they are complete garbage.


And likewise, i have found some excellent stories with not even an even dozen favs/alerts and no reviews at all. And the normal way of finding those is accidentally when searching for something else.
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Re: New story on the works

Postby HibikiRed » Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:48 pm

'm not really sure how to take out of context a whole paragraph but it looks amazing lol!.

Anyhoo. Just for the record I don't care for reviews or feedback, but I always believed a story was a gem thanks to them alone. Personally I find certain pieces a bit rushed like Genma's daughter, specially the tiny part where Ryoga declares his feelings for her, but the reviews, side comments and exterior feedback made that story one of the best fanfiction made to date.

About making less of a man by cursing them, believe me. That's not my intention. In every story I have written women are as powerful as men. I try to make female Ranma to be the same as male Ranma, and not two sides separated by gender. That's my only idea about making Ryoga a girl. I want to detail every reason why I think deserve each other more than any other character including his fiancees.

Still, you may be right about my approach so, I'll try to work on other stories where they have their normal curses. For now, i'll stay with this plot for this story since I got all the pacing set in my mind this way.

On the last part about the Koi rod there is a tine conversation between Akane and Ranma at the end. She actually manages to recognize true anger in Ranma's eyes when she intervened in the last fight. Akane said that her anger fueled jealousy was something "beyond" the magic induced speed from the rod. That has to be some type of secret meaning Takahashi set up in the Manga, and the reason why I think she saw certain affinity between Ranma and Ryoga.

The last part over the fake fiance check the panels floating and you should see a Ranma disheveled after she didn't calculated how far would Ryoga go with her lies.

Well. Thanks for replying so fast and again. I may be an idiot to think this way, but trying to explain your several points serves me to show you I am paying attention and I am really trying to modify the story according to your tips, but at the same time I want to see if I can describe a Ranma/Ryoga fanfic the way I want to as well.
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