Why more SM/DBZ/YYH fanfics than Ranma or, Slayers?

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Why more SM/DBZ/YYH fanfics at ff.net?

Pervy boys like massive fights and girls in tights.
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5%
Pervy boys like massive fights and girls in tights.
4
5%
All popularity comes from CN.
16
21%
All popularity comes from CN.
16
21%
Ranma, Slayers and a bunch of others are OLD!
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14%
Ranma, Slayers and a bunch of others are OLD!
11
14%
People don't read enough manga.
6
8%
People don't read enough manga.
6
8%
Girlz liek Goku, bad boyz and magical smakdown!
1
1%
Girlz liek Goku, bad boyz and magical smakdown!
1
1%
 
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Postby bissek » Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:12 pm

The english voice actors for Inuyasha don't even pronounce their character's names correctly, and you don't need much training for that. Japan takes voice acting far more seriously than America does.
Even if you cut the regular bust size jokes in Slayers, the really big reason it isn't on mainstream television is the phrase "In thy great name I swear myself to darkness". Lina says that every time she casts the Dragon Slave, which means she sells her soul to the devil (Literally - they flat out state that the spell involves swearing fealty to Shaburanigdo in the series) every two to three episodes. This is so far off being politically correct that it will never be on any station a kid could see it on. And since that detail, and the corresponding phrase from the Giga Slave are important plot details, they can't be edited out.
Then again, one episode of Tenchi Muyo centered entirely around towels falling off the girls at a hot spring, and Cartoon Network showed it anyway (after painting swimsuits onto the girls).
There is no excuse for showing DBZ on television. It is the single most popular BAD anime in the world. It takes forever for anything to happen, the plot concepts are just plain absurd, and whoever cast the voice actors should be shot. The thing that really gets me about it, however, is that everytime a GOOD anime on CN is about to reach a long stretch of episodes I haven't seen yet, the show is cancelled and replaced with DBZ (This has happened several times).
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Postby nuclear death frog » Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:17 pm

Cyber_Skaarj wrote:You gotta wonder, if the Japanese can handle a little bit of nudity - and quite tame nudity at that - why on earth do the people who bring anime to the west think the rest of us can't?

The FCC is controlled by the Religious Wrong, who have brainwashed several generations of people into believing that a bared breast is more harmful to the kids than watching people get murdered right in front of them. And it's the FCC that makes the rules about what can be aired on television for free, or what has to be specially paid for.
The government is controlled in that fashion because the members of the Religious Wrong vote more consistently and "donate" more consistently to political parties than people who haven't been brainwashed.
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Postby Neko- » Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:12 am

Probably cause the series Ranma and Slayers are indeed somewhat older. Sailor Moon is quite dated aswell, but as I reckon it's the airing in the US that mostly factors in.
I don't know if Slayers and Ranma ever aired on any channel in the US, but if they didn't, there's another huge reason for you.
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Postby Cyber_Skaarj » Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:50 am

bissek wrote:The english voice actors for Inuyasha don't even pronounce their character's names correctly, and you don't need much training for that. Japan takes voice acting far more seriously than America does.

Even Ranma 1/2 isn't free of that particular problem. Ever notice how in the dub Ranma's name is pronounced Rahnma by many of the characters? And don't get me started on how they pronounce Akane's name...
nuclear death frog wrote:The FCC is controlled by the Religious Wrong, who have brainwashed several generations of people into believing that a bared breast is more harmful to the kids than watching people get murdered right in front of them. And it's the FCC that makes the rules about what can be aired on television for free, or what has to be specially paid for.

What is this FFC you speak of? And would it be legal to shoot the lot of 'em?
At least in America you actually get to see a lot of the anime that's released over in Japan (even if it is shown only once and horribly dubbed). The number of times I've complained about the fact that we Brit's only get to see a handful of decent anime (literally able to count the number that's been shown on British TV on the fingers of one hand...) is far too many to count.
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Postby nuclear death frog » Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:09 pm

Cyber_Skaarjj wrote:What is this FFC you speak of? And would it be legal to shoot the lot of 'em?

FCC -- Federal Communications Commission. It's the agency of the US government that regulates the content of what gets put on radio or television in the US. Nasty little agency that not enough people pay attention to, which has virtually absolute authority in its dominion.
As for legality, no, it wouldn't be legal. It would, however, be just, which is often better.
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Postby Hiryo » Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:35 am

They write more of those fics/crossovers
a) It's one of the 'Epic Anime AND Manga' that where released like AMG, DB, SM,
R1/2, Slayer, IY . . . .
b) For reason that there are already sooo many plots and reasonable explanations . . .
are written out/detailed/... whereby those have the most used are:
1) AMG: You need a wish or something that has drastic changed the
world/series/person or has to do something with gods/goddesses/demons/mystical
beings . . . use that.
2) DB: You need power that easily overpower most chars/aliens &/or grants wishes
. . . use that.
3) SM: You need Magical girls in skimpy clothes, demons that are soooo lame, or
simply Pluto her allknowing/plotting/sheming/timetraveling/creating Paradoxes
'princess' herslelf . . . use that.
4) R1/2: You need chaotic beings, springs that change your body based on
watertemperature or want to use chars/powers from other anime/mangas without
inserting the anime/manga itself . . . use that.
5) Slayer: You need magic that draws from THE GODDESS itself, our favorite Mazuko
Xellos, dragons, silly stories, or twisted persons/creatures and of course magic au
mass . . . use that. (Although lately there are too few of those out there . . . .)
6) IY: You need Demons where some are good and some are bad, miko powers or a
timetravelmachine in the past. . . use that.
these are the most used plots IMHO for those series . . . and if one isn't quite creative
enough/has a writer block/want to make a new twist to the basic plot/ they use these
plots and similar reason/plots like those . . . .)
c) There are already so many GOOD fanfics out there for those anime and when ones
read so many one gets the urge to write more of those . . . and we authors are familar
with that one . . . or how did you begun to write fanfiction? <rises eyebrow>
d) Simply as it is . . . soooooo many likes those Anime/Mangas that one simply has to
write about those. :p
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Postby Acey » Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:59 am

Cybsie wrote:[Even Ranma 1/2 isn't free of that particular problem. Ever notice how in the dub Ranma's name is pronounced Rahnma by many of the characters? And don't get me started on how they pronounce Akane's name...

Even one of my sisters, who hasn't watched much anime, but does enjoy Ranma 1/2 often comments on that when we watch it. To paraphrase her, "wouldn't the American actors be annoyed if a foreign show dubbed a character named Daniel 'DAH-niel'?"
I have to cut the dub voice actors some slack here though. It shouldn't fall on their shoulders to discern how a foreign name is pronounced, but rather the various dubbing directors, and apparently most were satisfied with a-KAA-NAY's Shatner-esque "RAAAHHHHHN-ma!"
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Postby Valkyrie Ice » Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:29 pm

Actually, the reason DBZ is so popular is because it has a plot that can be followed by your average newborn.
America has been brainwashed by so many generations of saturday morning cartoon into thinking that animation is for kiddies. And kids, naturally, like not having their mindless action interrupted by such trivial things as plot, characterization, and logic. Take sailormoon for example, a show that was meant for the 13-16 crowd that got turned into something a four year old could watch.
Then, if you want to actually buy anime, the price for the average subtitled version usually seems to be twice what you would pay for an American made animation, at least in my area. $35-$45 dollars for two half hour episodes of Dragon-Half at my local Suncoast Video? $145 for NGE? When I can buy an entire season of an american series for under 75?
And people wonder why I prefer Japanese and British television more than American.
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Postby Cyber_Skaarj » Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:02 pm

Valkyrie Ice wrote:Then, if you want to actually buy anime, the price for the average subtitled version usually seems to be twice what you would pay for an American made animation, at least in my area. $35-$45 dollars for two half hour episodes of Dragon-Half at my local Suncoast Video? $145 for NGE? When I can buy an entire season of an american series for under 75?

Stick to buying the DVDs. They almost always come with both the dub and sub of every episode/film, and they're a hell of a lot cheaper than VHS, as they can hold more than 2 eps per disc...
America has been brainwashed by so many generations of saturday morning cartoon into thinking that animation is for kiddies. And kids, naturally, like not having their mindless action interrupted by such trivial things as plot, characterization, and logic. Take sailormoon for example, a show that was meant for the 13-16 crowd that got turned into something a four year old could watch.

It's not just America that's been brainwashed into thinking that. Most of the Western world, when talking about cartoons, thinks "oh, that's all stuff for kids". They completely ignore the 80's era when Saturday morning stuff was thing Adults could watch and enjoy too, like Thundercats and Transformers. And they completely ignore the fact that Japanese animation and comics (what we call anime and manga) were created for all age ranges. If they were to actually sit down and watch something like, say, Rurouni Kenshin, or the uncut version of Tenchi Muyo, they'd realise they're missing out on a whole load of good quality TV shows that are far superior to most of the crap that passes for TV here in the west these days.
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Postby TerraEpon » Mon Jun 12, 2006 8:46 pm

Valkyrie Ice wrote: Take sailormoon for example, a show that was meant for the 13-16 crowd that got turned into something a four year old could watch.
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Er, no it wasn't. It was meant for the 2-12 crowd actually.
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Postby bissek » Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:17 pm

HELLO! All you have to do to learn the correct pronunciation of a character's name is listen to the original Japanese audio track for a few minutes. Are the people who do dubbing so cheap that they can't do something that simple?
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