Crescent Pulsar R wrote: It'd depend on what kind of behaviors you're talking about. If it's how he acts in general, I don't see anything that would inspire such a question (such as it is). When it comes to the times when he's actually pretending (for one reason or another), I think he understands enough, but mostly the stereotypical behavior (as an observer) and little of the nuance (which is better developed through personal experience). It probably doesn't help that he's likely trying too hard, and ends up exaggerating rather than doing any sort of mimicking.
Shampoo firsts appears in the fifth story line, and it was really the first time Ranma was forced into a sexual/romantic situation. The story lines prior to that take up something like a few weeks time.Drawde wrote: Takahashi's original intent was for Ranma to simply be a normal boy who liked fighting, who has wierd things happen to him. That lasted until Shampoo's introduction where he started falling apart around girls.
"And this engagement thing doesn't really mean anything at all..." would indicate a lack of understanding about certain things at the very least.Drawde wrote: But there's no indication after that that Ranma is a social incompetent. He knows how to act around others, as shown when he disguises himself or he wants something from someone, but he just doesn't care normally and has a large ego. Although he likely missed some school Genma isn't shown to have actively kept him from it, unlike fanon.
mondu_the_fat wrote: Why does it have to be a binary choice?
That is why I was kind of expecting a paragraph at least explaining the point of view.mondu_the_fat wrote: Like everyone else, likely it is a little of column A and a little of column B.
Zwzn wrote:It's the little things that seem to catch my eye like:
"And this engagement thing doesn't really mean anything at all..."
Things like that make me think Ranma may not understand the culture very well. Ranma just said that he didn't care if he dishonored his family, himself, Akane, the Tendo family, or anyone he is engaged to and their families, and he can't figure out why Akane might be angry, and it was in the frame he said this that she started to get angry
Then you have the people on the street ignoring Ranma being kidnapped in the Martial arts Tea Ceremony arc. because it's not their business, but Ranma gets involved all the time with things simply because someone needs help, or is out of line while everyone else ignores it.
People in and out of universe assume Ranma had a standard upbringing as far as learning the culture goes, but Genma's training trip would have made that difficult if not impossible since it greatly limited contact with anyone other then Genma, and the fact Ranma would have been exposed to several conflicting cultures.
Crescent Pulsar R wrote: You're not reading that right. Within the context, using that interpretation wouldn't fit. As you can see, Akane goes, "erk," which is not a sound made when one is mad but when one is caught doing something they didn't want someone else to know/figure out or admit to themselves. Ranma's saying that the change in engagement is really just a part of the two sister's squabble, which is making him a victim in the whole affair. Akane doesn't begin to sound angry until the following part of what he says, wherein he calls Akane the "violent one."
You honestly have no idea what I'm talking about?Crescent Pulsar R wrote: Akane has also been known to get involved in others' affairs (usually Ranma's). Genma, Soun, Nabiki and even Kasumi are guilty of eavesdropping and/or peeping at some point, or otherwise getting themselves involved, some more often than others.
You are assuming something like everyone just ignoring what is happening, or just standing by when it happens is not realistic. You don't need superpowers to call for help, check if a person is okay, or speak out when you see someone really out of line.Crescent Pulsar R wrote: And normal people don't get involved for obvious reasons. First off, what could they hope to do unless they were martial artists themselves? Then there's the fact that they're unimportant to the current plot except to react in certain ways in response to what the actual characters are doing or have done, for comedic purposes. Their defined role does not depiction of culture make.
Clear evidence? What do you want the characters to do, say I assume Ranma mean X because that is normal for someone who has lived nearly all of their life in the Japanese culture?Crescent Pulsar R wrote: There is no clear evidence regarding any of that.
It has nothing to do with culture. Nada. Simple as that. Moving on...Zwzn wrote:Any way you cut it Ranma doesn't understand why Akane is angry so the example stands implying he does not understand the culture.
You honestly have no idea what I'm talking about?
You are assuming something like everyone just ignoring what is happening, or just standing by when it happens is not realistic. You don't need superpowers to call for help, check if a person is okay, or speak out when you see someone really out of line.
Clear evidence? What do you want the characters to do, say I assume Ranma mean X because that is normal for someone who has lived nearly all of their life in the Japanese culture?
We have it implied such as:
Kasumi arranging the bath for both Ranma and Akane. Perfectly normal for Japanese, but Kasumi just assumed Ranma was raised to be okay with it, and Ranma clearly was not expecting Akane to come to take a bath while he was still in the bath.
And these things have anything to do with culture... how?Akane often takes offense at things Ranma says or does. She is assuming that Ranma means to hurt her because that is the likely intent if anyone else talked to her that way.
Ranma's classmates know next to nothing about him, but make lots of assumptions about him.
People in and out of universe assume Ranma had a standard upbringing as far as learning the culture goes, but Genma's training trip would have made that difficult if not impossible since it greatly limited contact with anyone other then Genma, and the fact Ranma would have been exposed to several conflicting cultures.
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