SpaceKnight of Chaos wrote:First, he may not be doing anything specifically perverted to her, and it's certainly not his intention, but he is still betraying her trust. Akane considers Ryoga her best friend, even better than Ranma, and would be heartbroken (to say the least) to discover that he was allowing her to be ignorant of his cursed state. Akane does things around P-chan, and tells P-chan things, that she would never tell anyone else- she opens up to the piglet in a way she can't bring herself to do for any other human, and to find out the boy she respects and trusts above all else was essentially taking advantage of that...
Crescent Pulsar wrote:Despicable? Perhaps that's too strong a word for what I'd call him. But I think he's bad enough. Of course, he, like a lot of characters, are pretty selfish and self-centered. So, it's par for the course, really. I suppose I'd call him pathetic. Despite his principles, he can't uphold them much too often. Despite his guilt over masquerading as Akane's pet pig, he still goes into her arms willingly (which is to say that it's not always Akane taking the initiative). However, even when she initiates intimate contact with him, he sometimes gives up and gives in to his guilty pleasure. And despite having a girl that knows about his curse, and loves him (very obviously), he can't let go of Akane, even though she's engaged to someone else, been engaged to someone else.
Crescent Pulsar wrote:Despite his principles, he can't uphold them much too often
Crescent Pulsar wrote:Despite his guilt over masquerading as Akane's pet pig, he still goes into her arms willingly (which is to say that it's not always Akane taking the initiative)
Crescent Pulsar wrote:he sometimes gives up and gives in to his guilty pleasure
Crescent Pulsar wrote:And despite having a girl that knows about his curse, and loves him (very obviously), he can't let go of Akane
Crescent Pulsar wrote: even though she's engaged to someone else, been engaged to someone else.
LadyRelena wrote:He's upheld quite a lot of them actually. He's helped Ranma out numerous times when he never had to. Especially during the arc where Ranma became weak.
It's not about whether he goes into her arms willing, it's the reason behind it. Also when does Akane [i]not[i] taking the initiative in hugging P-chan?
This I'll admit to. However it's not like he has many chances to get away even if he didn't like her.
As much as Akari is an adorable girl she has almost no character what so ever and he barely knows anything about her other then she loves him and pigs. It's only reasonable that he would like Akane since he knows her so much more. Also, what would it say about Ryoga if he fell for Akari from the minuet they first meet after being in love with Akane for so long. It's only natural that he would debit with himself about it.
None of the rivals take their engagement seriously since Ranma and Akane constantly go out of their way to make everyone think they don't like each other.
And how many of those times did he have ulterior motives? Plus, when Ranma was weakened by the moxibustion, he didn't help Ranma out of the goodness of his heart. First it was because he couldn't stand people who picked on the weak. That's selfish. And then he wanted Ranma to spare him the pain. Again, selfish.
LadyRelena wrote:I've read lots of fanfiction portraying Ryoga as being awful and sometimes even worst then Happosi, and if you read mzephyrus opinions on his characters, she practically rips him a new one. http://home.comcast.net/~mzephyrus/characters.html
AdmiralTigerclaw wrote:Recall that getting to sleep in Akane's bed is not all its cracked up to be, as Happosai discovered the hard way.
Akane of course, rolls over, punches, kicks, and strangles in her sleep...
RANMA: Is she always like this?
RYOGA: This it pretty tame. Usually its much worse.
That was rich. And a genius way to handle giving Happosai what he desserved.
Anyway. I wouldn't call Ryoga despicable, I wouldn't even call him bad.
The guy starts off with a pretty strong Pity case to begin with. He can't find his way out of a wet paper bag, and when he does, it starts to rain... and now he's a black piglet... who can't find its way out of a wet paper bag.
Akane is the first person, in his eyes, to be nice to him for all his troubles. (Sans the piglet issue.) And he hooks on it and sees the contention between her and Ranma as a new way to focus his anger against his Eternal Rival. He ends up Crushing on her and begins seeing himself as her protector.
I'm pretty certain that in Ryoga's mind, the things he does are solidly justified by a near religious belief that he's doing the right things for her. He most likely sees himself as her trusted secret Confidant. While we may point out that hiding his true self from her as a piglet is betraying her trust, he's already talked himself into the belief that HE is her greatest guardian, and locked it in his head that he would NEVER reveal her secrets.
For using her against Ranma with the P-chan form. I'm certain that since he sees Ranma not only as his nemesis, but a person that is BAD for her and doesn't care about her, he easily justifies using her as a weapon in herself, as an action actually benifiting her.
Bad? Hardly. Right? Hah! Understandable? The guy's cursed to turn into a PIG! On top of his poor sense of direction... I can't begrudge his scenario.
I would expect he is so dedicated to Protecting Akane, that if she told him to 'Go Jump off a Cliff' figuratively in a fit of anger. Ryoga would promptly pitch himself over the nearest one he could find. (Assuming he didn't end up in Pongyiang North Korea or something first.)
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