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how long does it take to get from England to Japan

Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:44 am
by Tovath
As the title says I need to know how long does it take to get from England to Japan overland by foot and truck. Also does anyone know how much time passes between when Usagi becomes Sailor Moon and when Venus appers in cannon.

Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:19 am
by TerraEpon
One can assume that Minako took a plane. I assume you have a reason for her not to.
There's no canonical time line, but she appears in episode 33, I think.
-Joshua

Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:30 am
by Tovath
yes I do have a reason for her not taking a plane several actually. Any ideas on how it would take would be usefully since I am going to make reference to things going on in Japan while things are happening on this trip.

Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:12 pm
by Neko-
If she doesn't take a plane then we're pretty much left guessing... So...
We assume the distance between London and Tokyo:
http://www.mapsofworld.com/utilities/wo ... ocator.htm
9536 miles... That's point to point.
Now we add about 15% extra on that cause roads never really take us straight where we want to go. Rounded up, that yields 11000 miles.
Since we can estimate a car doing average speeds of about 40 MPH (that's including stops, trafficlights, traffic jams, and whatnot)... We get a total of 275 hours. If we assume that only half the day is spent driving, that means we drive 12 hours a day... That still means we would be nearing 23 days before making our destination.
We're not taking into account any customs and the like (and China is a REALLY weird country on that front it seems), so place it safe, and make it about a month.
Ofcourse you're free to extend the time due to unforeseen circumstances.

Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:41 pm
by blackmamuth
I can beat those 23 days with a 11 day route!!
It's easy to travel from London to Moscow by train. Just take Eurostar from London to Brussels, a high-speed train to Cologne, then the direct sleeper train from Cologne to Moscow, taking two nights. This has comfortable modern sleeping-cars and a restaurant car for your meals. It's the civilised way to reach Russia..!
Trans siberian railroad:
Moscow - Vladivostok: Every second day, the 'Rossiya' ('Russia', train number 2 eastbound, train 1 westbound) leaves Moscow on its seven day journey to Vladivostok. This is almost the longest train ride of them all - 9,258 km or 6,152 miles. This train has 2nd class 4-berth compartments (called kupé) and 1st class 2-berth compartments (called spalny wagon or 'SV') and a restaurant car. One-way fares start at about 9,226 rubles ($320 or £190) in a 4-berth sleeper or 18,200 rubles ($630 or £370) in a 2-berth sleeper. There's a brief account of the journey below. Virtual tour of the Rossiya. From Vladivostok there is a weekly ship to Japan, taking 36 hours (2 nights).
Therefore: Best possible land time: 11 days

Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:51 pm
by blackmamuth
Oops, my bad, train isn't allowed, right? you mean foot and truck? Well:
1-you need to take ships at least to cross the channel and the sea of Japan.
Some people made a trip from china to paris by car, here is a journal, ob
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/pekingtoparis/ ... efault.htm
Maybe it helps.
I still think it's insane such trip withouth taking the transsiberian.

Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:52 pm
by Neko-
He said by foot and truck... So using a train wasn't included in the deal.
I guess it would be a more sensible solution, and a hell of a lot quicker too.

Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 3:51 pm
by nuclear death frog
Any foot-or-truck estimate under a couple months is, in my opinion, ludicrously optimistic. Walking is self-explanatory; you're looking at, minimum, over ten thousand miles (10,000) because of the meandering routes you'll have to take to avoid the harshest terrain and stay near enough to towns, because eventually Minako (and her parents, one presumes) will need to stop for food and supplies and lodging. Latent senshi powers may keep Minako going for days (ha! yeah right!) but her parents are ordinary humans. No way will they be walking more than, probably, twelve to thirteen hours in a day, and probably not much more than about five miles per hour. A day on foot in which they cover 60 miles would be an extreme high-water mark; 40 miles may not even be likely. And that would be just one day -- the next would probably be devoted to recovery from something like that, if not the next couple days, or more. Progress on foot would be...slow, to say the least.
Trucks would be a way to cover much more distance, but that assumes they can be found and hired. You need funds, and there are language barriers, and it'll probably take them some distance out of their way because unless they're purely hitchhiking you'll need to convince the drivers to let them on board -- even then, it's still a dangerous lifestyle activity. Good luck on having that happen consistently; that was sarcasm, by the way.
You'd be looking at crossing maybe ten or more nations; from western Europe -- start in England, and presumably France is next via the channel. Belgium. Germany. Poland. Ukraine (I think?). Russia -- lots and lots of Russia. Head south. Several more former Soviet satellites. Head roughly northeast. China -- a whole lot of China. And then the sea of Japan, by ship, since swimming is out of the question (Ranma and Genma did it; but Minako's parents? Err, no).
Ranma and Genma allegedly covered the two or three thousand miles between the Bayankala Mountains in western China, to Nerima, in a couple weeks. Minako and her parents are going a lot farther on a lot less. By truck and foot? Two months minimum -- and more is likely. Any less and you're killing any possibility of suspending disbelief.

Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:30 pm
by Tovath
Thank you Neko and nuclear death frog. I already have plans to take care of funds and the language barrier for most of the way at least. I'm afraid that Minako's parents will not be a factor in this.

Posted:
Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:11 pm
by Winchester
Not sure if this is applicable, but in 1996 a Swede named Göran Kropp (a reserve officer in the Swedish Para-Rangers, and an experienced adventurer), made an 8,000 mile solo bike trip from central Sweden to the base of Mount Everest, which took about six months (mid-October to mid-April).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6ran_Kropp has some more details. (He then solo climbed the mountain with no oxygen, descended, and rode his bike home again....)

Posted:
Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:24 pm
by Cheb
Note that the Eastern parts of Russia may have no contiguous automobile roads network! Only the small local networks with very weak/non-permanent connections between them. Where you need a tank or a lot of luck to get to the end of a dirt swimming line called "road".
It's absolutely unnatural to try travel these parts by anything other than train if you need to go any serious distance.
I would suggest stowawaying a freight train or riding a passenger train "unofficially" (the train crews are notorious for their corruption in this aspect).

Posted:
Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:42 pm
by Crescent Pulsar
I figure that it's worth mentioning that the senshi can teleport individually. At least in the manga they can. One example is two of the senshi teleporting some guy out of the control room under the arcade, then three of them teleport to the North pole. If my memory serves me right, Jupiter teleports by herself to save some guy that she knows as Makoto at some point in the manga.
I hope I'm not being a bother with this information. Sorry if I am, since it seems you have something planned by using so much time in travel. ^_^;

Posted:
Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:09 pm
by Tovath
Thank you for the information Crescent Pulsar and don't worry about bothering me. My story is going to be based on the anime since it is what I know better. Hopefully I will get the 1st chapter finished and posted here soon.