Corruption Levels of the NWC

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Corruption Levels of the NWC

Postby SpaceKnight of Chaos » Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:42 pm

A fanfic I'm writing involves a crossover with the "Infernum" 3rd party setting for D&D 3.5, and I need help figuring out something. Infernum basically uses a modified form of the 3.5 experience rules to determine how tainted any individual is by the sins they have committed and their exposure to the corrupted environments of Hell. Any given act of evil has a "Sin Rating", which bestows "Sin Points" equivalent to the XP of an equivalent Challenge Rating -- so a Sin Rating 3 sin would give an amount of Sin Points equal to the amount of Experience Points that would be gained for defeating a Challenge Rating 3 encounter.
As everyone knows, except for Kasumi (and even she's committed a few minor misdeeds, in the early half of the series), all of the Nerima Wrecking Crew has committed wrongdoings. I'd like help figuring out what their precise Corruption Level is from all of their evil deeds, so can anyone give me a hand? I'm working with the anime canon, so that's my primary interest, but I'm still interested in the manga's results. Below is the complete list of Sins and their attendent Sin Ratings -- if people would like any given Sin explained in more detail, simply let me know and I'll post the book's explanation. In addition to all of these, being in any of the Nine Circles corrupts a mortal; each Circle has a Sin Rating equal to its numerical value (so 1 for Emptiness, 2 for Tempest, 3 for Tears, 4 for Toil, 5 for Slaughter, 6 for Industry, 7 for Delight, 8 for Malebolge, 9 for Pandemonium). The rivers of the Infernum brim with corruption; the Phlegton has SR 2, the Acheron SR 4, the Styx SR 6, the Lethe SR 8 and the Cocytus SR 10).

Malicious Deceit: Sin Rating 1

Covetousness: Sin Rating 1

Verbal Cruelty: Sin Rating 1

Theft: Sin Rating 1 – 3

Breaking Your Word: Sin Rating 2

Refusing To Relieve Suffering: Sin Rating 2

Blasphemy: Sin Rating 3

Betrayal: Sin Rating 3 – 8

Cruelty To Creatures Of Animal Intelligence: Sin Rating 3

Obeying An Order To Commit An Evil Act: Sin Rating 4

Physical Cruelty To Intelligent Creatures: Sin Rating 4

Refusing To Save Another’s Life: Sin Rating 5

Defiling A Holy Item Or Place: Sin Rating 3 – 5

Rape: Sin Rating 6

Killing A Creature That Is At Your Mercy: Sin Rating 7

Fatal Deceit: Sin Rating 7

Unpremeditated Murder: Sin Rating 8

Protracted Torture: Sin Rating 9

Murder In Cold Blood: Sin Rating 10

Murder Of A Friend Or Relative: Sin Rating 11

Murder Of An Innocent: Sin Rating 13

Mass Torture: Sin Rating 14

Mass Murder: Sin Rating 15

The Sin Against The Holy Ghost: Sin Rating 17

Mass Murder Of Innocents: Sin Rating 18

Denying The Will Of God: Sin Rating 20
Water, water, everywhere, and all was cursed and black!
Drowned ones cast bad spell and out come pig, girl, duck, panda!
Swirl, swirl, slithery pond, and join with magic spring!
Swirl, swirl, dirty pond, and rid the cursed sting!
Here my prayer, I beg you please!
Now turn these curses BACK!

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Re: Corruption Levels of the NWC

Postby SpaceKnight of Chaos » Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:48 pm

Just to clear things up, by Rules As Written, a person gets Sin points only if they complete the act, so Shampoo would not get the Sin Points for either Unpremeditated Murder ("Girl-Type Ranma"), Murder In Cold Blood (possibly Akane in the first Taro story) or Murder Of A Friend Or Relative (Mousse, possibly Akane in the first Taro story). She would, however, probably get slapped with two high rating Betrayals for her deeds in the Taro story; once for agreeing to Soun's plea to go and help while secretly plotting to get Akane out of the way, once for trying to carry out her murderous plan upon finding Akane.

Secondly, can we please keep it to Sins that the characters have committed in the actual setting of the series? I don't want to see Ukyo or Kodachi or Shampoo getting slapped with a "Denying The Will Of God" mark for their pursuit of Ranma.
Water, water, everywhere, and all was cursed and black!
Drowned ones cast bad spell and out come pig, girl, duck, panda!
Swirl, swirl, slithery pond, and join with magic spring!
Swirl, swirl, dirty pond, and rid the cursed sting!
Here my prayer, I beg you please!
Now turn these curses BACK!

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Re: Corruption Levels of the NWC

Postby nuriko » Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:25 pm

Just as well, or I don't want to think about how many times Genma would be tagged for Theft.
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Re: Corruption Levels of the NWC

Postby SpaceKnight of Chaos » Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:30 pm

Indeed. Well, as Ranma is the person I'm most interested in, I figured I might as well try and put up my own thoughts on the Sins he's committed in canon. Input, please?

Ranma
Verbal Cruelty: while sometimes he's just reacting to others, there are times he's deliberately mocked and taunted people just for the hell of it.

Theft: Ranma's tried to steal things on several occasions.

Covetuousness: oh yeah, Ranma's got an envy problem going on.

Betrayal: I'm positive Ranma's done this before, but I can't remember what and thusly can't judge the severity of the betrayals.

Breaking Your Word: I'm pretty sure Ranma's done this at least in spirit on some occasions, but I don't remember when.

Physical Cruelty To Intelligent Creatures: Ranma has beaten up or kicked around P-chan on occasion, and as P-chan is a transformed human, that bumps him to this as opposed to cruelty to animals.

I think there might be one or two instances of Obeying Orders to Commit Evil, but I'm not certain. Also, he might have once refused to save a life, but I don't think so. He certainly hasn't committed any of the murder, torture or rape Sins.
Water, water, everywhere, and all was cursed and black!
Drowned ones cast bad spell and out come pig, girl, duck, panda!
Swirl, swirl, slithery pond, and join with magic spring!
Swirl, swirl, dirty pond, and rid the cursed sting!
Here my prayer, I beg you please!
Now turn these curses BACK!

http://www.issendai.com/rpgs/japanese-boys-names.shtml
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Re: Corruption Levels of the NWC

Postby SpaceKnight of Chaos » Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:04 pm

These are paraphrasements of the Sin Descriptions from the Book of the Damned, which should make it easier for folks to judge for this topic.

Malicious Deceit: this is defined as a lie told for no other reason than to cause pain or harm to another person. Not every lie or deception is a sin, or else any soul who had ever bluffed another would be damned to Hell.

Covetuousness: desiring things that should not be yours and having the intent if not the capacity to acquire them. Idly dreaming about an object or a person is not a sin, but coveting something so much that the only reason you do not take it is because of your physical inability to do so is a sin. For example, Gosunkugi's lust for Akane would be Covetuousness.

Verbal Cruelty: there are many ways in which to creatively hurt someone without laying a finger upon then, and those who are evil take pleasure in even the smallest of sins. Verbal Cruelty is an evil act whether it involves crushing a young woman's self esteem, laughing at a beggar's pathetic state, or reminding a person of emotional pain that they have suffered.

Theft: to take something that is not yours; the greater the harm you cause by stealing something, the more grievous the sin.

Breaking Your Word: this covers acting dishonorably as well as breaking oaths. Non-payment of Covenants is also counts as this sin.

Refusing To Relieve Suffering: this is a sin of omission, in which the sinner deliberately refrains from intervening when they could have relieved someone else's suffering without significant cost or inconvenience to themselves. For this sin to have been committed, the suffering person must have been in genuine need and asked you for help that you then refused. For example, refusing to give a fang (copper piece) to a beggar out of malice when you have a hundred oboli (coins worth 20 crowns (gold pieces) each, with 1 crown equaling 100 fangs) spare.

Blasphemy: denying or wilfully insulting the divine, though the sinner must know what s/he is profaning in order to commit this sin. Someone who has never experienced or known the divine cannot be considered to blaspheme, as they have no understanding of why something/one may be considered "sacred" and so their insults mean nothing to both themselves and to the ones they insult.

Betrayal: a difficult sin to define, but, like the famous definition of obscenity, one knows it when one sees it. Selling out ones friends, defecting to an evil cause, abusing a trust and making empty promises for ones own benefit are all examples of betrayal. Pretty much everyone in Ranma 1/2 has done this at some point - for example, Akane essentially abused Ranma's trust by using his phobia of cats to terrify him into agreeing to throw his rematch with Mousse.

Cruelty To Creatures Of Animal Intelligence: malicious injury, deliberate starvation, burning and beating are all examples of things that would earn the comitter this sin. They must be tormenting something of animal intelligence (2, in D&D terms) - something that has enough intelligence to experience pain and thusly counts as a sentient being. Something that no mind cannot feel pain - one cannot torture a giant ooze.

Obeying An Order To Commit An Evil Act: to perform an evil deed at the command of another is to acquire some leniency - but not total. By partaking in the sin, one partakes of some of the responsibility, and so one is also touched by Corruption, even though the full burden falls upon the one who gave the order. For example, a solider decapitating a helpless prisoner at the order of their commander would gain this sin, while their commander would commit the sin of murder.

Physical Cruelty To Intelligent Creatures: any and all acts of wilful and sadistic harm to creatures of greater then animal intelligence (Int 3+, in D&D terms), irregardless of the alignment of those tormented.

Refusing To Save Another's Life: failing to prevent a person from dying when it was unquestionably in your power to do so and you had nothing to fear from the dying person. For example, refusing to spare water for someone dying of thirst despite having plenty to spare, or refusing to throw a rope to someone drowning when it would be easy to do so but you cannot be bothered.

Defiling a Holy Item Or Place: the severity of this sin depends on the potency of the item/place defiled. Making snuff from the ashes of an obscure saint would be a low-level Defilement, sacking and looting the tomb of a deified figure would be a high-level one.

Rape: this covers both forcing yourself sexually on another being and other denials of free will... I think this technically means that pretty much everyone in Ranma's circle has "rape-class" Sins to their name. Nabiki, Kasumi and Soun's declaring Ranma in the wrong and forcing him to try and apologise to Akane at the start of the Nabiki as Ranma's fiancee story, for example.

Killing A Creature That Is At Your Mercy: this is not quite murder, as it is not premeditated. It consists of the slaughter of a creature that has no weapons, is not capable of defending itself, and is bound, held in manacles, or otherwise incapacitated. In essence, for this sin to count, the sinner must slay a creature that must not have been dangerous to them at the time of death in any way whatsoever.

Fatal Deceit: deliberately causing the death of another through the telling of lies. This is less serious then murder, as you do not strike the killing blow yourself, but still a terrible act. An example of fatal deceit would be giving someone a vial of poison and telling them it is a healing potion. Telling such lies in self-defence or to trick an enemy does not count as a sin, as is the same with any deceit-based sin. Fatal Betrayal (that is, betrayal that causes the betrayed to die in a manner that could not have occured without them having first been betrayed) is Sin Rating 8.

Unpremeditated Murder: murder committed without prior planning. This does not cover accidental inflictions of death, but only killings that were both avoidable and unlawful.

Protracted Torture: torture is the cold-blooded use of expertise and equipment to cause a creature as much pain as possible without killing it. This sin is committed the first time one spends more then 1 minute torturing a creature and does not count as having been committed again until at least one day has passed between torturing sessions. The suffering inflicted upon the damned is an example of protracted torture.

Murder In Cold Blood: killing an opponent who is fighting you with lethal intent is not a sin, nor is fighting someone who fights for a cause or nation with whom you are at war. To Murder In Cold Blood is to deliberately kill someone simply because it is the easiest, most convenient thing to do.

Murder Of A Friend Or Relative: this also covers the murder of someone you are sworn to protect or serve, such as a vassal lord. It is more severe a sin then simple murder because it is also an act of great betrayal.

Murder Of An Innocent: to slay a single intelligent and truly innocent being - namely an infant or someone with Corruption Level 0.

Mass Torture: this sin cannot be committed by a lone individual. You must have a dedicated group of individuals working under you who, at your instruction, proceed to torture multiple victims. They will receive Evil Obedience sins, while you will receive the Mass Torture sin.

Mass Murder: as above, you cannot commit this sin on your own. Committing several murders in a sequence is not the same as Mass Murder. It requires others to kill multiple victims in response to a single order from you.

The Sin Against The Holy Ghost: claiming the power of the divine as your own, which includes perverting angelic power and pretending to be a divine being.

Mass Murder Of Innocents: as Mass Murder, except the majority of your victims must be Innocents. This, amongst the most terrible of sins, is usually seen only when a tyrant wants to rid themselves of an entire dynasty and ensure that nobody may challenge their rule.

Denying The Will Of God: wilfully and deliberately acting in opposition to the Will of the Divine.
Water, water, everywhere, and all was cursed and black!
Drowned ones cast bad spell and out come pig, girl, duck, panda!
Swirl, swirl, slithery pond, and join with magic spring!
Swirl, swirl, dirty pond, and rid the cursed sting!
Here my prayer, I beg you please!
Now turn these curses BACK!

http://www.issendai.com/rpgs/japanese-boys-names.shtml
http://www.issendai.com/rpgs/japanese-girls-names.shtml
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