Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha

[Shadell]

I think another caveat would have to be

4. Has powers for more then the duration of a single threat or nemesis, and continues to practice those powers regularly.

Certain characters obtain powers purely in reaction to other events but go back to a normal life at the end of the series, this would seem to be a large deterrent toward pursuing magic professionally.

Also, this thread seems to be getting rather off topic.

And I'd like to list the girls of Mai Otome as Professional Magical Girls as well as those of Zero no Tsukaima.

[al103]

And I'd like to list the girls of Mai Otome as Professional Magical Girls as well as those of Zero no Tsukaima.

No. They are professional mages. As is Nanoha in Strikers. Difference in "female mage" and "mahou shoujo" is certainly small, but it is there. MS is comparatible unique in the world even if professional, where mage IS a profession. Diference somewhere like superhero and policeman/firefighter/soldier...

[Uldihaa]

I've decided to re-watch Nanoha, all three seasons, recently and still find myself puzzled as to where a common assumption in Nanoha fanfics came from. That assumption being that the TSAB actually monitors/interacts with multiple universes (i.e. parallel and/or alternate universes). For the life of me, I can't find a single reference to this idea in the anime. All that is said is that the TSAB handles, and travels through, those things/events that impinge on dimensional space. So how are people going from multiple dimensions to multiple universes?

I'm pretty sure that dimensions refer to the layers of space-time in one universe, not multiple ones; for example something like hyper-space could be considered another dimension. While at one point, a long time ago, sci-fi stories described other dimensions as separate and/or parallel universes, that's been almost completely abandoned (as far as I know).

Maybe I'm just missing it, but I always thought that it was the same universe, it's just that the TSAB, and Lost Logia, could interact with more than the three dimensions the real world deals with. Or maybe I'm just confusing terms

[al103]

I don't remember if any of that said in guides provided with DVD, and don't want to search for translations now... but by the way it was said about BoD and Al Hazard...

[Comartemis]

In my book, dimensions and universes have always been more or less interchangeable as terms, and I wouldn't be a bit surprised if lots of other people (the boys at Seven Arcs, for instance) didn't bother to make the distinction either, either because they don't know what the difference is or because the difference is so minute as to be inconsequential to them. Besides, multiple universes are just more fun to play with than multiple dimensions.

[bissek]

I've decided to re-watch Nanoha, all three seasons, recently and still find myself puzzled as to where a common assumption in Nanoha fanfics came from. That assumption being that the TSAB actually monitors/interacts with multiple universes (i.e. parallel and/or alternate universes). For the life of me, I can't find a single reference to this idea in the anime. All that is said is that the TSAB handles, and travels through, those things/events that impinge on dimensional space. So how are people going from multiple dimensions to multiple universes?

I'm pretty sure that dimensions refer to the layers of space-time in one universe, not multiple ones; for example something like hyper-space could be considered another dimension. While at one point, a long time ago, sci-fi stories described other dimensions as separate and/or parallel universes, that's been almost completely abandoned (as far as I know).

Maybe I'm just missing it, but I always thought that it was the same universe, it's just that the TSAB, and Lost Logia, could interact with more than the three dimensions the real world deals with. Or maybe I'm just confusing terms

Precia's base of operations, The Garden of Time, is its own pocket dimension. The Book Of Darkness had destroyed entire dimensions (And I'm sure people would notice if the concept of up suddenly ceased to exist). I think that's sufficient proof that by dimension they don't mean axis of reference.

[Akuma-sama]

Not to mention that Fate's little teleport spell in season 1 used a set of 8 coordinates...

[Uldihaa]

Guess I just don't like the idea of something that interacts with multiple universes; it just seems rather ridiculous considering the size of just one universe. Some kind of galactic thing I can accept. Eh, it's just me being odd I guess

[Comartemis]

Guess I just don't like the idea of something that interacts with multiple universes; it just seems rather ridiculous considering the size of just one universe. Some kind of galactic thing I can accept. Eh, it's just me being odd I guess

That's easy enough to fix; just think of it this way:

In each universe, there is a focal point on the fabric of time/space around which the universe revolves, usually a planet but sometimes a star system or even an entire galaxy in some rare cases (Star Wars!). Dimensional coordinates will by default deposit the transporter at or near this focal point. In the case of Nanoha, the focal points of the universes we see are Earth (see, the universe does revolve around us ), Mid-Childa, and the Garden of Time. If you wanted to import Kingdom Hearts or Reservoir Chronicle Tsubasa, the worlds that the characters in those respective universes wind up visiting are the focal points of dozens of separate universes. If you were to visit the Star Wars universe on the other hand, you'd have a problem unless you had a hyperspace-capable ship, since you could appear anywhere in the entire galaxy, most of which is empty space.

[Heaven's Deamon]

There is also the possibility that different Universes may have different sizes since few shows or other series occur on more than a single planet, even fewer go beyond the galactic scale, and as a result we can only gauge the size of each universe by what we see of it unless something within the series states that there is more.

[Uldihaa]

In each universe, there is a focal point on the fabric of time/space around which the universe revolves, usually a planet but sometimes a star system or even an entire galaxy in some rare cases (Star Wars!). Dimensional coordinates will by default deposit the transporter at or near this focal point. In the case of Nanoha, the focal points of the universes we see are Earth (see, the universe does revolve around us ), Mid-Childa, and the Garden of Time. If you wanted to import Kingdom Hearts or Reservoir Chronicle Tsubasa, the worlds that the characters in those respective universes wind up visiting are the focal points of dozens of separate universes. If you were to visit the Star Wars universe on the other hand, you'd have a problem unless you had a hyperspace-capable ship, since you could appear anywhere in the entire galaxy, most of which is empty space.

Heh, I actually thought of something similar after making that post And yes, I could accept something like that...I'm just worried it'll encourage cross-overs, or mega-crosses, when we don't have enough quality pure Nanoha fics as it is

[Comartemis]

Heh, I actually thought of something similar after making that post Laughing And yes, I could accept something like that...I'm just worried it'll encourage cross-overs, or mega-crosses, when we don't have enough quality pure Nanoha fics as it is

You should check out AnimeSuki's Nanoha boards then. Both the Original Characters Thread and the Fanfiction thread are just buzzing with new ideas almost nonstop, and the only notable crossovers I know of in the Fanfiction thread are a Nanoha/Evangelion crossover (which does not look like it is going to have a happy ending for anyone involved) and a proposed Nanoha/Mai Hime crossover which hasn't really gotten anywhere.

The OC Thread on the other hand has a strict set of guidelines and rules which you must follow if you are to participate in their shared community, and one of those is no crossovers whatsoever. "Outer Cadia" as it's called by the inhabitants (yours truly included) sticks to the hard and fast of Nanoha canon; character can't be more powerful than the Aces without VERY good reasons, and everything must abide by the rules laid down by canon.

Canon itself can be twisted into new forms (there's one guy there who inserted a new character into canon right at the beginning and adjusted the entire timeline to account for her presence, and I'm in the middle of doing something similar) but if you want to import stuff from other universes, you have to port it and make it fit into the Nanoha-verse.

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...one of the thread's founding members did this with Johnson and the Master Chief from Halo.

Yeah, you read that right; Spartan-117 and Johnson are a part of the Order of Freelance Mages, a TSA black-ops unit invented by the same guy (Wild Goose) who ported them in the first place. I did something a little more low-key with Zero from the Mega Man games; instead of a prototype Reploid, he's a Type-00 Combat Cyborg.

[Uldihaa]

I'll take a look, thanks Com.

Did find something that made me extremely happy though. I just started to re-watch StrikerS, and became somewhat annoyed at the rather low quality of video (168-175 MB per file). Having already checked my usual spots for a higher quality version of the first and second season (didn't find any though, so if someone knows a direct download spot with 200+ MB versions, please let me know ), however I did discover that a fansub group had used, I think, DVD rips for StrikerS. I'm now in the process of downloading the files, all of which are 290 MB :p And the difference is shocking! Incredibly clean and sharp, and even in full-screen mode it still looks nice.

Has anyone heard anything new about what Geneon plans to do with Nanoha and A's? I know they're both still being subbed, but I want to know if anyone has heard anything new lately.

[Comartemis]

Geneon has been out of the business for several months now (I think they filed for bankruptcy) and since they're holding the rights to distribute the first two seasons Stateside, it is unlikely that we will ever see a dubbed version of Nanoha unless they sell off those rights to some other company.

[Comartemis]

Fresh from ANN: Genon's handed Nanoha off to FUNimation along with several other of their titles. Guess the license won't go down with the ship.