The Dark Lords of Nerima, Epilogue [R/SM cross]

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The Dark Lords of Nerima, Epilogue [R/SM cross]

Postby claymade » Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:58 pm

Disclaimer: I don't own Ranma 1/2 or Sailor Moon in any way, shape or form. All associated characters, trademarks, etc. are the property of Rumiko Takahashi and Naoko Takeuchi. I'm just telling some stories about them.

(previous chapters can be found here)


Author's Note: Just a short little epilogue to tie off the last few dangling plot threads, and pave the way for the interlude fic, and from there to Part Two... Dang, it's hard to believe that Part One is actually finished now...


Epilogue



Several weeks later, Ranma made his way groggily down the stairs, yawning as he headed toward the Tendo living room. Morning, he reflected, had come entirely too early.

His body was still aching slightly whenever he moved, the aftereffects of the duel he'd had yesterday against Ryouga. It had been a particularly tricky fight—even if he would never admit that fact aloud. The lost boy's tenacity and strength had been problematic enough to deal with before he had gone and found a technique that let him weaponize his feelings of depression as an actual ki attack.

Fortunately, however, Ranma had figured out a counter for the Shi Shi Hokodan and won the battle. Not to mention that he had gotten a new technique of his own in the bargain. Even if his Moko Takabisha hadn't quite stood up to the "perfect" version of Ryouga's technique on its own, the pigtailed fighter still preferred his modification over the original.

And even more than just the victory, Ranma was enjoying what it represented: a return—for the moment—to simpler problems, like a straightforward duel against his most persistent rival. It marked a much-needed respite from battles over the fate of the world in favor of more normal things, like getting attacked by high-velocity projections of someone's life force.

The Dark Kingdom had pulled completely out of Nerima. It had been weeks since anyone had sensed a youma, disguised or otherwise, during the periodic sweeps of the area that the martial artists had taken to performing. And although the Senshi had returned—mostly to eat at Ucchan's or the Nekohanten—the distance between the two wards made that a relatively infrequent occurrence as well. There had been a close call or two, but the secret was still safe on all fronts.

"Ranma!"

The pigtailed fighter glanced over to see who had called him, and his eyebrows went up a little at the sight of the girl standing there. She was adapting well to human clothing lately, dressed in a white blouse and a long blue skirt, and she had also taken to tying her silver hair back into a ponytail. "Hey Beneda!" he said. "Haven't seen you in a while. What've you been up to?"

The sometime-youma sighed, a bit wearily. "Training," she answered. "Also, training. And in addition, more training. I'm learning a lot... but Doctor Tofu wasn't joking when he said this would be intensive."

Ranma laughed. "I know the feeling," he said. "But don't worry, you get used to it sooner than you'd think. Anyway, what brings you out here so early?"

"I just wanted to catch you before you left for school," Beneda said, reaching into her pocket as she did so. "I saw this in a store yesterday, and I thought you'd find it funny."

She pulled her hand back out, revealing what she had brought: a small, plush Sailor Moon doll. Ranma took it from her with an amused laugh, examining the chibi figure of his former opponent. "Pretty good likeness, actually. Come to think of it, I've been seeing a whole lot more of this Senshi merchandise these days."

Beneda nodded. "I heard that someone somewhere finally got a clear photo of the Senshi not too long ago, and sold it to a bunch of magazines and toy companies. No one knows who did it... but whoever it was, they must have made out like a bandit." As she spoke Ranma's ears caught a faint noise coming from back upstairs—almost like the sound of someone sneezing.

The pigtailed boy opened his mouth to speak more, but he was interrupted by the sudden ringing of the telephone. Since he was the closest person, he walked over to it and picked up the receiver. "Hello?"

"Ranma!" The breathless voice on the other end was Ukyo's. "Did you hear what happened last night? What are we going to do about it?"

"Wait, wait, hold on a sec..." Ranma frowned, trying to make sense out of what his old friend was saying. "Last night? This is the first I've heard of anything out of the ordinary. What happened?"

"Turn on the television! It's all over the news!"

Puzzled, Ranma nevertheless set the receiver down and hurried into the living room. Akane was already there, eating breakfast with P-chan nestled comfortably in her lap. Ranma ignored them, instead flicking on the television set.

"—menacing apparition that appeared in the sky over Minato Ward last night," were the newscaster's first words that Ranma heard. "Here, once again, is the best recording we have of the sensational demands that it delivered."

The screen cut to a grainy view of the Tokyo skyline, the image wobbling slightly as though captured by a handheld video camera. Ranma sucked in a quick hiss of breath. Looming over the city was a huge, semi-transparent image of a very familiar blond man, with a glare on his face.

"I am Jadeite!" the Dark General's image announced. "Listen closely, Sailor Moon, Sailor Mercury and Sailor Mars! Haneda Airport at 1AM tomorrow. Come to runway F. But if you do not..." Jadeite's eyes glowed, and he launched a sphere of fire down from his mouth. In an instant, the entire cityscape was enveloped in flame.

After a few seconds, Jadeite snapped his fingers. "That was just an illusion!" he said, before leaning in closer. "But if you do not show up... I will burn Tokyo to the ground!" And with that, the huge image vanished.

For a moment Ranma simply stood there, staring at the screen as the newscaster resumes his commentary. Then he turned to look at P-chan, who looked back at him, grim expressions on both their faces.



**********



Later that night, Jadeite watched from high atop the airport's control tower, looking down contemptuously at the human policemen patrolling the runway. It was absurd. Did they actually think to intrude on his battle? They were barely even worthy of notice... but even so, he didn't want them blundering about.

"I have no business with you people," he intoned, directing a superior smile at their oblivious forms. "So you can sleep for a while."

With that he raised his arms, sending out wave after wave of his dark magic, blanketing the area. The spell took hold of the unaware officers almost immediately, and they began toppling over where they stood.

Too easy.

No, the real test was yet to come. And he would not risk the slightest interruption to his plan, even if it meant wasting his time brushing aside insects like these. Queen Beryl's fury with him had reached a boiling point with the death of her youma Thetis, and she had made it clear that this was his last chance.

Either he would kill the Senshi for her... or she would bestow a fate worse than death on him.

So he stood there, alone, looking out over the sleeping city as he waited for his enemies, waited for the final battle that would decide everything. The cold night breeze whispered past him, spreading its chill wherever it went.

And carried on that whisper of a breeze, he thought for a moment that he could almost hear the whisper of a voice, a figment of his memory. It was the voice of a small cat, speaking to him in front of a school with a resigned voice that contained just a hint of pity. "And if your strength isn't enough, someday?" the whisper asked him. "If someday your Queen doesn't find you so useful anymore?"

"Who will stand up for you then?"

The Dark General clenched his fist, and angrily shook his head, banishing all such thoughts from his mind. It was prattle, the voice of weakness, and he refused to entertain it even for a moment. He was not going to fail this time. He would stand on his own power, he would triumph, and he would regain Queen Beryl's favor.

He would accept no other outcome.



**********



With a rush of sensation and stomach-twisting vertigo, Tuxedo Kamen's consciousness asserted itself.

The events leading up to it were—as with every time he awoke—a tangled blur to him. Aside from a few scattered, indistinct images, he had no awareness of who he had been before the transformation took hold of him, just as he suspected his other self had no knowledge of his actions as a masked vigilante.

But he had no time to be disoriented. His awakening had come, as it usually did, with the stomach-churning certainty that Sailor Moon was in danger. He didn't know who she was either, nor what her connection was to him that she could affect him in this way. The only thing he did know, with absolute certainty, was that he would not let any harm come to her.

He took stock of his situation, and found that he was on the outskirts of an airport. Sailor Moon's location could not be seen from where he stood, but he knew it all the same, though he did not know exactly how. He moved swiftly and silently through the deserted place, keeping to the shadows to hide his approach, until he arrived at the edge of the main airstrip and surveyed the situation.

The battle did not seem to be going well for the Senshi. They were running for their lives, away from a pair of jetliners that were barreling after them. And the source of the planes' malevolent behavior was not hard to deduce when he caught sight of Jadeite himself, standing high atop the nearby control tower, gloating down at them.

Tuxedo Kamen waited, not wanting to show his hand prematurely, but he quickly realized that time was running out. The Dark General had the Senshi trapped against the ocean that stretched out along the far side of the airfield, with nowhere left to flee as the huge plane hurtled toward them. With nothing for it, the masked man made a mighty leap, shooting up behind Jadeite and throwing down a rose from midair.

The floral projectile slashed past Jadeite's face, causing the general to jerk his head back. His concentration broken, he lost his telekinetic hold on the planes, and the massive machines rolled to a stop. At the same time, Tuxedo Kamen landed atop the control tower as well, steeling himself for battle. "Are you having fun bullying these helpless girls?" he asked.

"You appear again, Tuxedo Kamen," replied Jadeite, turning to face his attacker, an arrogant smile on his face. "I'll send you to hell along with those three!"

"A villain who toys with innocent people," shot back the masked man confidently. "You will not get away with it."

For several long moments they stood there, sizing each other up, while the Senshi called out encouragement from below. Then Jadeite made his move. With a shout of "Die!" he raised his hands and unleashed a torrent of pale lightning at his opponent.

Tuxedo Kamen leapt high into the air, Jadeite's attack licking at his heels as he cleared it. The Dark General leapt into the air as well, flying up to engage the masked man. The two of them spun through the air, whirling around each other, looking for an opening.

Jadeite found it first. He flew forward, plowing straight into Tuxedo Kamen with bone-jarring force. The two men plummeted in a long, elliptical arc, Jadeite driving them downward until they crashed deep into the ice-cold water with a large splash.

The impact knocked some of the air from Tuxedo Kamen's lungs in a stream of bubbles, but he managed to keep most of it in. He lashed out with a kick, aimed at Jadeite's rib cage, but the water surrounding them slowed the attack, and the Dark General took it on his forearm.

With a flick of his wrist, Tuxedo Kamen drew another rose. He couldn't throw it well underwater, so instead he simply swung the tip dagger-like at Jadeite's chest. But the Dark General's hand shot up, catching his opponent's arm at the wrist, locking it in place. Then the blond man raised his other hand, palm outward.

There was a rumbling sound, and then behind Jadeite, cracks began to appear in the underwater part of the airfield's concrete foundation. His telekinesis! Tuxedo Kamen realized. He's—

But he had no chance to complete the thought, as a large chunk of the foundation ripped free and shot straight at him. He tried to twist out of the way, but Jadeite held him tightly in place, and the projectile hammered straight into his chest. The blow crushed the remaining air from his lungs, and he lost his grip on the rose, which floated upward toward the surface.

Before the masked man could even begin to recover his senses, more chunks of concrete were slamming into him from every angle, battering him further down. One hit him right between the shoulder blades, driving him all the way to the bottom.

He had no air left. His consciousness was fading. And still the projectiles struck him, burying him under a pile of rubble, a funeral cairn trapping his body here as he died.

The last thing he saw, before his vision faded to black, was Jadeite levitating back up toward the surface, back up toward Sailor Moon.



**********



Water, thought Ranma darkly, as he watched Jadeite and Tuxedo Kamen go plummeting from their position atop the control tower and into the sea. Of course! A whole freaking airport to fight in, and they just had to take it into the water.

He couldn't think of many worse directions the fight could have gone. Ryouga would be near-useless in such a setting, cutting their available manpower in half. Worse, even for Ranma it would be a much more difficult proposition to interfere surreptitiously, should his help be needed.

Muttering under his breath about how things never went according to plan, he spun away from the window of the small building at the side of the airstrip that he and Ryouga had been peeking out from. "Stay here!" he hissed over his shoulder at the lost boy. "I'll follow those two!"

With that, he darted out the back exit, keeping the building between him and the Senshi as much as he could as he raced in a blur of speed toward the water's edge. Without pausing, he leapt off in a graceful dive, vanishing beneath the surface with barely a ripple. He became a she in the process, but she barely even noticed in light of the more pressing concerns.

Her eyes adjusted quickly to the dark, murky water, just in time to see the distant figure of Jadeite pummeling Tuxedo Kamen with shards of concrete torn from the airstrip's foundation. This is bad! the pigtailed fighter thought. The Dark General had chosen his battle ground frighteningly well. His powers were hard enough to avoid normally; it would be near-suicide to fight him down here, with the additional encumbrance of the water.

My only shot is a sneak attack, Ranma thought. Circle in from behind and hit him, maybe make him breathe in some water. See how he likes it down here then. But before she could put the plan into action Jadeite began to levitate back upward, leaving Tuxedo Kamen's prone form buried under the mound of debris.

Ranma made a quick judgment call. Jadeite could wait. Ryouga was still up there watching over the girls, and he would intervene if things started to get bad. For now, rescuing Tuxedo Kamen was the most pressing need. Accordingly, she swam down to where the masked vigilante was lying, her body cutting through the water like a shark.

She reached the unconscious man in seconds, her hands reaching down and flinging off the debris left and right. As soon as she had cleared enough, she dragged the man free and kicked off the ground back toward the surface, carrying Tuxedo Kamen along with her.

They broke the surface near where Ranma had first dived in, far enough along the water's edge to avoid being seen by the Senshi or blasted by Jadeite. Ranma dragged Tuxedo Kamen out of the water and behind one of the buildings. "Come on..." the pigtailed girl muttered, as she turned the masked man over and began to slap him on the back, wishing she had studied more about how this kind of first aid should actually work. "Come on!"

To her relief, Tuxedo Kamen's body soon convulsed and began to cough up water. Immediately Ranma darted away, slipping back into the building they had been hiding in originally. She did hold the door open a crack, though, peering out to watch as Tuxedo Kamen slowly pulled himself to his feet. The man was looking around in utter befuddlement, obviously trying to figure out how on earth he had gone from being trapped underwater to laying on the surface.

Letting out a soft chuckle, Ranma quietly closed the door and jogged over to where Ryouga was still crouched at the window. "Hey," she said as she approached. "Did you have to help those girls any yet? Take any shots at Jadeite?"

Ryouga shook his head. "Haven't needed to," he replied. "They're kicking his ass. Look."

Ranma looked out the window, and saw that her rival was right. Jadeite was no longer flying, but rather fleeing desperately down the runway. Somehow, the planes that he had been directing toward the Senshi were now being dragged inexorably toward him. The pigtailed fighter let out a low whistle. "How'd they pull that off?"

"I didn't really see most of it, since the Mercury girl had her mist up," replied Ryouga. "But it looks like one of them snuck up behind him in the fog, while the other two distracted him. Slapped some kind of ward or something on his back. It messed him up pretty good, and made all his magic go haywire."

"Well that's a neat trick," said Ranma. Certainly their own battle against Jadeite would have been over much faster if they'd been able to pull off something like that. Either way, though, it looked as though any worries about the Dark Kingdom leader were about to be rendered moot. Even as Ranma watched, Sailor Moon drew back her tiara and hurled it at the general.

Jadeite managed to fling himself out of the weapon's path, but in his jumbled state he could not regain his balance and he fell to the ground. He pulled himself back up to one knee... but not quickly enough.

As the general raised his head, one of the jetliners caught up with him. He had time for one horrified scream, before he was run down by the enormous machine, his own telekinesis crushing it into him. His body twisted and writhed, and Ranma imagined that she could hear the snapping of bone even at their distance.

The pigtailed girl turned to look at Ryouga. "So much for him..." she said, jerking her thumb back toward the general's crumpled form. "You know, those girls didn't do half bad. Well, okay, the tuxedo guy would've been toast if we hadn't been here... but considering who they were up against I think they did all right for themselves."

Ryouga nodded. "You know..." he said at length. "At this point, I'm not sure we really need to keep what we did a secret from them anymore. We could probably just tell them the whole story of what happened."

"Why?" was Ranma's response. "What if we tell them, and it turns out they still want to go after Beneda for what she did? Or what if they just plain don't believe us?"

"You don't think they'd listen to our explanation?" asked Ryouga.

"Ryouga, I can't remember the last time a girl listened to an explanation I tried to give for something," Ranma shot back. "Why risk everything blowing up again? We're set the way things are. I think it's better to just stay in the shadows for now, and wait for our moment—like Cologne said."

"I suppose..." Ryouga said, not sounding entirely convinced. "I'm all for letting sleeping dogs lie, of course... but at the same time, what if they do find out?"

The lost boy leaned back against the wall, crossing his arms as he continued. "Hell, even if we do manage to stay behind the scenes through this whole Dark Kingdom business, they could still stumble onto us by accident later on. And if they find us like that—when we've been hiding from them—it'll look even worse for us, on top of everything else we've already done."

Ranma waved her hand dismissively. "Ah, you worry too much, P-chan," she said. "I mean... seriously. What're the odds of that happening?"

~ end part one ~
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Re: The Dark Lords of Nerima, Epilogue [R/SM cross]

Postby PCHeintz72 » Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:36 am

Either way, though, it looked as though any worries about the Dark Kingdom leader were about to be rendered moot.

Wait... Ranma and company know Jedite was not the *leader* of the Dark Kingdom.




One item of concern... it seems Jedite has changed his tactics very little... Consideirng his experience fighting Ranma and the 'Dark Lords', I would have thought it would have made him change plans, or be tougher to beat, not easier...

Also, if he really died on the runway, then that changes things in regards to the Dark Kingdoms reactions to the Senshi going forward. Consider, originally Jedite was sealed due to his being unable to kill them, but now... Beryl did not loose a disgraced General by her own hand, she is forced to contemplate the enemy took out her in favor general and actually took something from her(one of her main lackies). She should not only be infuriated, but actually likely pushing for even more agressive and a hardline action. Maybe sending out all generals or even just two at a time.
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Postby Pusakuronu » Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:34 am

PCHeintz72 wrote:Also, if he really died on the runway, then that changes things in regards to the Dark Kingdoms reactions to the Senshi going forward. Consider, originally Jedite was sealed due to his being unable to kill them, but now... Beryl did not loose a disgraced General by her own hand, she is forced to contemplate the enemy took out her in favor general and actually took something from her(one of her main lackies). She should not only be infuriated, but actually likely pushing for even more agressive and a hardline action. Maybe sending out all generals or even just two at a time.


It sure looked as if he should have died on the runway in the anime too. The watchers wouldn't have seen any follow-up in the Dark Kingdom, if there was one. Was there? That could be made clearer in the chapter.

For the rest of the chapter, it was a fairly accurate representation of the anime's Epsiode 13, with no changes to what happened. Though seeing Jadeite's and Tuxedo Mask's underwater fight was nice.
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Re: The Dark Lords of Nerima, Epilogue [R/SM cross]

Postby claymade » Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:26 am

Thanks very much for the C&C and suggestions! :D

PCHeintz72 wrote:Wait... Ranma and company know Jedite was not the *leader* of the Dark Kingdom.

Well, he isn't the leader of the Dark Kingdom, but he is a "Dark Kingdom leader". Hmmm, maybe I should still phrase it differently.

PCHeintz72 wrote:One item of concern... it seems Jedite has changed his tactics very little... Consideirng his experience fighting Ranma and the 'Dark Lords', I would have thought it would have made him change plans, or be tougher to beat, not easier...

Did he seem easier to beat to you? How so? I definitely didn't want to give that impression, whatever caused it.

Pusakuronu wrote:It sure looked as if he should have died on the runway in the anime too. The watchers wouldn't have seen any follow-up in the Dark Kingdom, if there was one. Was there? That could be made clearer in the chapter.

Yes, this was my thought. He did not, in fact, die on the runway, but from what I can tell from watching the episode it would have looked that way to any watchers. I tried throwing in a bit about his body vanishing somewhere in there, but it didn't seem to fit very well with the dialogue anywhere, and I guess I just hoped people would take it like he just hadn't teleported away yet. Probably wasn't a good idea; I'll try some more to fit in a mention of him vanishing. But yes, he did subsequently escape back to the Dark Kingdom, however badly I conveyed that.

Pusakuronu wrote:For the rest of the chapter, it was a fairly accurate representation of the anime's Epsiode 13...

Were there any parts that seemed less than accurate than the others? If anything felt off, I can try to fix it.

Pusakuronu wrote:Though seeing Jadeite's and Tuxedo Mask's underwater fight was nice.

Heh heh. I had always wondered what happened down there. We know they go under, that a rose floats to the surface, and that Jadeite then emerges gloating that Tuxedo Kamen is dead. Then, later on, Tuxedo Kamen reappears... but completely skirts around the issue of just exactly how he survived. I always wondered: what exactly would fit all those criteria?

Then I realized I had a chance to give an explanation with this fic. Maybe the answer was that Ranma saved him. :D
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Postby Pusakuronu » Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:58 pm

claymade wrote:Were there any parts that seemed less than accurate than the others? If anything felt off, I can try to fix it.


No, what I meant is that I was astonished that there were no changes at all, given his recent experiences. It's as if the entire Nerima arc hadn't happened at all. I mean, those senshi girls managed to beat the Dark Lords. Who beat him down. Thus, I'd have expected him to take them seriously and go in there with WAY more preparation. Traps, backup, hostages, whatever.
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Postby Wyrd » Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:31 pm

Something that might cover the vanishing issue is to add one line:

His body twisted and writhed, and Ranma imagined that she could hear the snapping of bone even at their distance.

The pigtailed girl turned to look at Ryouga, missing Jadeite's disappearance.

or, the disappearance of Jadeite's body.
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Re: The Dark Lords of Nerima, Epilogue [R/SM cross]

Postby claymade » Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:36 pm

Pusakuronu wrote:I mean, those senshi girls managed to beat the Dark Lords. Who beat him down. Thus, I'd have expected him to take them seriously and go in there with WAY more preparation. Traps, backup, hostages, whatever.

Well, in his defense, their "beating" the Dark Lords as they described it to him wasn't really going toe-to-toe with them in any real way, but rather just noticing their "magic dohickey" and smashing it. In and of itself, it's not really a fresh take on their capabilities, per se.

Pusakuronu wrote:No, what I meant is that I was astonished that there were no changes at all, given his recent experiences. It's as if the entire Nerima arc hadn't happened at all.

The two aren't exactly the same question, though: "are things the same as canon?" vs. "did the Nerima arc have an effect on things?"

Tuxedo Kamen's fate is probably the biggest example of this, where (as Ranma notes) if the Nerima arc hadn't happened, Ranma and Ryouga probably wouldn't have been at the airport, and Tux would have died fighting Jadeite, instead of surviving thanks to Ranma. And there are also a handful of other areas where that comes into play as well (like the business with Thetis getting involved, or Modra obtaining the Darkmistress's headpiece, etc.) that would probably have played out very differently than from canon--if the Nerima arc had not, in fact, happened.

Wyrd wrote:Something that might cover the vanishing issue is to add one line

Unfortunately, since I'm using Third Person Limited, it's a somewhat dicey proposition to describe something without the viewpoint character noticing it as well--kinda breaks the effect.

I'll mess around with it a little more, though--even if not exactly that way, I think you're quite on the right track, and it's going to end up being something along those lines...
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Re: The Dark Lords of Nerima, Epilogue [R/SM cross]

Postby Nadrek » Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:25 pm

Go ahead, use third person limited... just show a snippet from the general or a youma's POV of his return to the dark kingdom.

I agree with the other posters; he just got most of a youma army destroyed, himself beat up, a very high end youma leader killed... and he's going back to earth with the same viewpoint he had before taking such losses?

Further, Furinkan just got blown up; I've never understood why the Japanese authorities aren't more involved (The Return and a handful of other fics aside); after a WMD threat from a massive hologram, I'd expect military forces on alert, as well as the police.
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Re: The Dark Lords of Nerima, Epilogue [R/SM cross]

Postby claymade » Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:49 pm

Nadrek wrote:Go ahead, use third person limited... just show a snippet from the general or a youma's POV of his return to the dark kingdom.

Hmmm, maybe a seperate scene will be necessary; I was kinda hoping to avoid it, but maybe that wasn't the best choice. Anyway, I'll play around with it. Thanks!

Nadrek wrote:I agree with the other posters; he just got most of a youma army destroyed, himself beat up, a very high end youma leader killed... and he's going back to earth with the same viewpoint he had before taking such losses?

The thing of it is, thought, that none of that was at the Senshi's hands. Jadeite--as he's shown in canon--is very much chauvinistically dismissive of the Senshi's ability to pose an actual threat to him. And even in the Nerima arc there just wasn't anything the Senshi did that I would expect to change that fatal underestimation he has of them.

What did they do in the Furinkan encounter that was beyond the normal capabilities they'd already displayed to him? Their direct battles all ended with them losing to the Nerima contingent, and even their eventual win would have to be considered as "ridiculous luck" to anyone who didn't know how Ranma had planned it all out. It certainly wasn't due to Moon powering up or gaining new ninja skillz and winning a direct fight against Ranma.

In short: what have the Senshi done during this fic that would make it implausible for Jadeite to still be underestimating them by its end, as he was at its beginning?

Nadrek wrote:Further, Furinkan just got blown up; I've never understood why the Japanese authorities aren't more involved (The Return and a handful of other fics aside); after a WMD threat from a massive hologram, I'd expect military forces on alert, as well as the police.

The cops I can't take credit for; policemen patrolling the airport are the established, canonical reaction to Jadeite's threat.

And of course, no one ever gets in trouble for property damage in Nerima. Heck, this isn't even Ranma's the first time messing up the school itself--there was, for instance, his little victory celebration for the curing of the Weakness Moxibustion, with no negative consequences then either. It's just the way things work there.
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Re: The Dark Lords of Nerima, Epilogue [R/SM cross]

Postby Pusakuronu » Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:34 am

claymade wrote:What did they do in the Furinkan encounter that was beyond the normal capabilities they'd already displayed to him? Their direct battles all ended with them losing to the Nerima contingent, and even their eventual win would have to be considered as "ridiculous luck" to anyone who didn't know how Ranma had planned it all out. It certainly wasn't due to Moon powering up or gaining new ninja skillz and winning a direct fight against Ranma.

In short: what have the Senshi done during this fic that would make it implausible for Jadeite to still be underestimating them by its end, as he was at its beginning?


They technically won the three-way battle with the dark lords and the Darkmistress' forces, since the dark lords' forces chose to disengage. They also got out of this mostly uninjured.

They lasted longer than the DD girls during the Furinkan assault, too.

I'd also expect his earlier defeat being a blow to his confidence. In contrast to the original series, he knows here that he can lose to someone other than the other generals or Beryl.
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Re: The Dark Lords of Nerima, Epilogue [R/SM cross]

Postby claymade » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:20 am

Pusakuronu wrote:They technically won the three-way battle with the dark lords and the Darkmistress' forces, since the dark lords' forces chose to disengage. They also got out of this mostly uninjured.

Perhaps it could be seen that way... but even then, Jadeite couldn't know that. Considering that there were no conscious Dark Kingdom observers for the last leg of the fight, all he knows is that they survived, somehow.

Pusakuronu wrote:They lasted longer than the DD girls during the Furinkan assault, too.

Against lesser enemies; he saw it was Ranma and Ryouga who were fighting the DD Girls when they tossed them out through the school wall not to mention that he got the full story from the Senshi after the fact.

Pusakuronu wrote:I'd also expect his earlier defeat being a blow to his confidence. In contrast to the original series, he knows here that he can lose to someone other than the other generals or Beryl.

It's not that his problem is that he's unable to process the concept that he could lose to someone other than the other Generals or Beryl. Heck, Tuxedo Kamen's appearance causes him to back down and decide to retreat rather than face him when he's fighting Sailor Moon atop the radio station in episode 3, so he was very clearly already aware that foes could defeat him, and could take it under consideration. It's specifically his chauvinistic sense of superiority over the girls that gets him into trouble.

...I dunno. I still just don't see a contradiction in Jadeite underestimating them. And certainly not one of such a magnitude that it would be worth the logistical headaches of trying to change my approach to the story over into "AU divergence"-mode so late in the game.
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Re: The Dark Lords of Nerima, Epilogue [R/SM cross]

Postby Drawde2 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:31 pm

Given how hidden their actions were for the most part, I'd consider publically threatening Tokyo a change from Jadeite's previous MO.
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Re: The Dark Lords of Nerima, Epilogue [R/SM cross]

Postby claymade » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:36 pm

Drawde2 wrote:Given how hidden their actions were for the most part, I'd consider publically threatening Tokyo a change from Jadeite's previous MO.

Interestingly enough, I was actually considering tossing in a line somewhere that implied he'd actually gotten the idea for abandoning his usual style and going with a straight challenge from seeing how the Senshi reacted to the Dark Lords' own challenge. It felt a little much, though, a little out of place somehow wherever I tried to put it, so I eventually gave up trying to work a specific mention in.

Anyway, here's the new version of the paragraph PCHeintz72 pointed out:

"Well that's a neat trick," said Ranma. Certainly their own battle against Jadeite would have been over much faster if they'd been able to pull off something like that. Either way, though, it looked as though any worries about the threat he posed were about to be rendered moot. Even as Ranma watched, Sailor Moon drew back her tiara and hurled it at the general.


Also, here's my current attempt at addressing the imply-the-teleportation issue. I played around with the separate-scene idea, but a whole scene for it felt unwieldy, and about the only one that would have worked would have been the actual scene where he gets iced, and that would have involved more re-tread than I wanted to throw in. This is my current thought on how to handle it:

The pigtailed girl turned to look at Ryouga. "So much for him..." she said, jerking her thumb back toward the general's crumpled form. "You know, those girls didn't do half bad. Well, okay, the tuxedo guy would've been toast if we hadn't been here... but considering who they were up against I think they did all right for themselves."

She took another glance out across the airstrip... and noted to her mild surprise that Jadeite's body was now gone. That was interesting. Did Dark Generals do the whole "turn to dust" thing when they died, like their youma did? Or had Jadeite managed to survive after all, and teleport away once again?

Ryouga's voice cut into her ruminations. "You know..." he said at length. "At this point, I'm not sure we really need to keep what we did a secret from the Senshi anymore. We could probably just tell them the whole story of what happened."
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Re: The Dark Lords of Nerima, Epilogue [R/SM cross]

Postby Nadrek » Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:41 pm

claymade wrote:It's not that his problem is that he's unable to process the concept that he could lose to someone other than the other Generals or Beryl. Heck, Tuxedo Kamen's appearance causes him to back down and decide to retreat rather than face him when he's fighting Sailor Moon atop the radio station in episode 3, so he was very clearly already aware that foes could defeat him, and could take it under consideration. It's specifically his chauvinistic sense of superiority over the girls that gets him into trouble.

...I dunno. I still just don't see a contradiction in Jadeite underestimating them. And certainly not one of such a magnitude that it would be worth the logistical headaches of trying to change my approach to the story over into "AU divergence"-mode so late in the game.


I may well grant that he doesn't believe the sailor scouts can defeat him... but now he knows that there are other, entirely separate forces actively contesting Earth, which the Dark Kingdom knows nothing about. His city-wide broadcast is absolutely likely to gain anyone else's attention, just like the Dark Lords of Nerima gained the Dark Kingdom's attention (and far more of it than the Sailor Scouts garner).

He should be prepared to deal with the scouts _and_ with whoever else shows up.
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Re: The Dark Lords of Nerima, Epilogue [R/SM cross]

Postby Pusakuronu » Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:22 am

claymade wrote:...I dunno. I still just don't see a contradiction in Jadeite underestimating them. And certainly not one of such a magnitude that it would be worth the logistical headaches of trying to change my approach to the story over into "AU divergence"-mode so late in the game.


"So late in the game"? Your entire story is "AU Divergence" so far, aside from this epilogue :D

Though that answer makes me uneasy. The only reason to worry about diverging would be that, for the rest of the story, the boring old canon events needed to happen as they did in the show. That would reduce the Nerima teams' interaction with the senshi to secret assistance in the background like they did in this epilogue, or eliminate interaction completely. If it's the secretive approach, that would leave me rather dissatisfied, since it would feel as if they had no impact on the big events at all. After all, the senshi managed fine without them in the show.

The "no interaction" option would mean possible interaction with the enemies only. You pulled that off well in this story for the most part, but if it's going to be irrelevant in the face of Sailor Moon's actions at the end, then it's going to leave a bad aftertaste.

Anyway, I just prefer it when the plot goes completely off the rails, so I'm hoping I'm wrong with my guesses here.
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